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Topic author: natesneat2000
Subject: Max Quality?
Posted on: 08/24/2004 3:31:02 PM
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I just got my Neuros II and will be reripping all music to Ogg Vorbis. What quality would you recommend? I'm thinking 6 or 7, but some say this causes skipping. I'll be using MiFi a lot, and maybe the queue and My Mix features.

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Reply author: Bandito
Replied on: 08/24/2004 5:49:14 PM
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Your best bet would be to rip one of your favorite CDs into both Q6 and Q7 (and any others that you want to try) and then try them out on the Nueros and see what you think. Just give the CD a different title so you can tell which is which. Then you'll know for sure what works for you.

Reply author: Lou Erickson
Replied on: 08/25/2004 2:23:24 PM
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Myself, I used Q6, and I might have lived with Q5 if I'd have known the skips it might cause.

BTW, Q's are meant to be used fractionally, and many features are enabled and disabled at the integers. Q5.999 and Q6 may behave differently, because Q < 6 allows different optimizations. (My numbers are examples. There was a really good list someplace, but I've lost it.)

So, do try and listen to different settings. I'd suggest going as low as you can, to save CPU on the Neuros, and disc everywhere.

Reply author: kronin
Replied on: 08/25/2004 2:45:09 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Lou Erickson

...Q5.999 and Q6 may behave differently, because Q < 6 allows different optimizations.

Q6 is the point at which lossless stereo coupling comes into play. I don't know what that means, but it sounds nice

I got this from the Vorbis FAQ, but have read it elsewhere.

Reply author: natesneat2000
Replied on: 08/25/2004 7:06:43 PM
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I did some Q6 ripping with CDEx using some GT3 encoder. Even on headphones, I get occasional small pauses. With MiFi, the menus are almost unusable. Either way, adding to My Mix causes big skips, and even queuing causes skips. I believe there was a bug for this; will edit if find.

Reply author: mbryner
Replied on: 08/26/2004 5:15:44 PM
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I use Q=6 and have about 14Gb of OGG's. I notice occasional "silent" skips (seems like the music "hiccups" ahead a fraction of a second). We also use the same OGG's to listen from the computer at home so I'd rather have them encoded at higher quality than lower. (Important in the future w/ ethernet link to home stereo!) It's too much of a pain to re-encode 300 CD's to get higher quality. My suggestion, go higher quality, though I haven't tried higher then Q6.

Marcus Bryner

Reply author: Lou Erickson
Replied on: 08/26/2004 6:52:57 PM
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I'll say again, do some listening tests. If you can't hear the difference between Q5 and Q6, why waste the disc and have the skippiness on the Neuros?

If you can, then consider it.

This is how I picked Q6. I encoded a "Spice Girls" album about six different ways. (Later, I encoded it in FLAC, to compare.) I then listend to them all, semi-randomly.

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