Aplication (null) is not a Win32 executable
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Topic author: liebowij
Subject: Aplication (null) is not a Win32 executable Yeah, I get this error... Application (null) is not a valid win32 executable whenever I try to run NSM. The trick I have to pull is... I delete the nsm executable, run the upgrade package, do a repair, and I can run the program after. The problem is that when I close it, and try to reopen it, I get the same error. This has been happening since 1.3 something, and now I am up to the most recent stable upgrade. I have scanned for viruses, and nothing. This is the only app on the system that has this issue. Suggestions? It may take a while to respond as I am in Mexico and sometimes I cant get access to the internet, but I will try! Thanks!
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Posted on: 03/21/2004 1:10:50 PM
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-Josh
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 03/21/2004 1:42:34 PM
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What version of windows are you using? To me it looks like you are having a problem with Windows Installer.
http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?st=b&na;=88&View;=en-us&qu;=windows+installer
go to the above address and download and install the windows installer 2.0 redistributable for your operating system. Should you be using Windows XP... don't install the above.
-Jeff
Reply author: liebowij
Replied on: 03/22/2004 4:48:46 PM
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Originally posted by Cool4u2view
What version of windows are you using? To me it looks like you are having a problem with Windows Installer.
http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?st=b&na;=88&View;=en-us&qu;=windows+installer
go to the above address and download and install the windows installer 2.0 redistributable for your operating system. Should you be using Windows XP... don't install the above.
-Jeff
I will see if I can find an updated version for XP. God I wish my linux drive didnt crash on me. Any suggestions on how to repair a PAM failure, with very limited internet bandwidth? (wont let me login, but displays a login prompt, and eventually says it respawned to fast disabling for 5 min.)
THANKS!
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 03/22/2004 5:02:55 PM
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Have you tried
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam-5.html#ss5.1
-Jeff
Reply author: webkid
Replied on: 03/22/2004 5:31:58 PM
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Grr, I wish people would stop publishing that method of entry. Or, at least, they wouldn't make it so obvious as "Ever wonder how people break into Linux terminals?"
Sorry, that was off-topic.
Now for some on-topic gripes:
I'm a big fan of single-executable non-install applications for this very reason. You never know if the installer program is going to throw up on your data files or what.
I much prefer to have a .exe that spawns some data files or whatnot in a known directory (the location of which could be stored in HKCU). Why do simple applications have to "implant" themselves into a system? Statically linked libraries run faster anyway.
Reply author: Sean Starkey
Replied on: 03/22/2004 5:44:31 PM
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Originally posted by webkid
I'm a big fan of single-executable non-install applications for this very reason. You never know if the installer program is going to throw up on your data files or what.
You want to put all those "disk clean" utilities out of business. You're mean.
Sean Starkey - Project Manager for Neuros Database Manipulator - http://neurosdbm.sourceforge.net
Reply author: liebowij
Replied on: 03/22/2004 5:50:03 PM
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Originally posted by Cool4u2view
Have you tried
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/Linux-PAM-html/pam-5.html#ss5.1
-Jeff
No I haven't! I shall try that now!
(linux user, who learned by trial and error, never had to tamper with too many thing to get it up and running well)
Thanks a bunch
-Josh
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 03/22/2004 5:58:56 PM
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Originally posted by webkid
Grr, I wish people would stop publishing that method of entry. Or, at least, they wouldn't make it so obvious as "Ever wonder how people break into Linux terminals?"
Which, single user mode?
Once physical access is gained, all bets are off.
Oh, and security through obscurity is not security at all...
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Originally posted by webkid
I'm a big fan of single-executable non-install applications for this very reason. You never know if the installer program is going to throw up on your data files or what.
I much prefer to have a .exe that spawns some data files or whatnot in a known directory (the location of which could be stored in HKCU). Why do simple applications have to "implant" themselves into a system? Statically linked libraries run faster anyway.
I agree.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 03/22/2004 6:58:19 PM
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I agree, with physical access you can pretty much break into anything out there in a matter of seconds (ok well probably 99% of the time because I can already think of a few exceptions.)
-Jeff
Reply author: webkid
Replied on: 03/22/2004 8:09:35 PM
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Agreed, security through obscurity is not secure at all. However, that only applies to someone willing to research the issue, as opposed to a 14-year-old student bent on making a school technician's life difficult who runs across it on some forums. 
Being that same child at one point myself, I accidentally ran across a way to render my entire schools network extremely slow, because of defect in their security software. (It involved setting up 6 or 7 machines into an infinite login loop over 10base-T) It's just to tempting not to try, and the more places it shows up, the more people will curse Linux and say "Well, at least this didn't happen with Windows."
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 03/22/2004 10:35:38 PM
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I was the same myself when I was younger, so my school district ended up hiring me while in high school as a technician. For the first time I was able to work on the other side of the wire against kids like myself (it was a lot of fun). With remote software and network tools in hand each malicious teen was greeted by a kind message “Eat my ping-of-death script kiddies” followed by a prompt reboot or hang of the system or simply “stop that <student’s name>” depending on if they were in an elementary or middle school vs. high school. It really scares kids when they find out that Big Brother is watching. (obligatory “Muahahaha” )
Those were the days…
-Jeff
Reply author: kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
Replied on: 03/24/2004 09:54:05 AM
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Josh,
Are you running NSM now, successfully? We can take this offline and do more traditional troubleshooting, it might not be as complicated as it seems.
You may just want to uninstall NSM and start fresh. Make sure you are installing the base installation with the .net framework. Then upgrade.
Let's go from there, because there shouldn't be a lot of XP installation issues, we always get it to work out.
Kathryn
Neuros Support
Reply author: liebowij
Replied on: 03/24/2004 4:08:03 PM
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Ok, I will uninstall and reinstall it. I wish the internet cafe would just let me plug in here.
Reply author: liebowij
Replied on: 06/22/2004 1:00:45 PM
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Ok, soo back in the USA, and I have time to try this again. I uninstalled NSM, reinstalled it, upgraded to the most current, and I still get the same error. It works until I restart the computer. I uninstalled it again, uninstalled the .Net framework. I than reinstalled just version 1.1, and than NSM, upgraded, and same issue. Any other ideas?
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 06/24/2004 9:54:17 PM
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I haven't forgot about you.
When you said the latest version did you mean 1.50 beta (off the beta updates page)?
-Jeff
Reply author: liebowij
Replied on: 06/25/2004 2:09:57 PM
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at the time, it was 1.48, but I just installed 1.50 and I haven't had a chance to reboot my machine yet, but with every upgrade it has done the same. off topic.... how do you run a http daemon with a domain when you have a dynamic ip?
Reply author: webkid
Replied on: 06/25/2004 2:12:03 PM
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Originally posted by liebowij(at)hotmail.com
off topic.... how do you run a http daemon with a domain when you have a dynamic ip?
http://www.no-ip.com/
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 06/25/2004 9:44:28 PM
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Another way to do it is by using two scripts as seen in the current edition of 2600 magazine.
-Jeff
Reply author: Lou Erickson
Replied on: 06/27/2004 12:59:13 AM
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Jeff reads 2600! Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Reply author: liebowij
Replied on: 06/27/2004 3:35:31 PM
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ok, so rebooting still causes this error to occur, what is going on here? I am just thinking that my Winxp installation has hit the fan on me. I guess I can continue to erase the NSM.exe file, and repair the installation with an upgrade every time I want to modify my neuros. GRR..
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 06/27/2004 4:48:07 PM
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You don't have any weird antivirus programs running do you? I suppose you don't have any virii that would overwrite a section of the executable either... but you could really only know by having antivirus software.
Upon recreation of the exe if you make a copy (don't run it) and rename it to say backup.nsm restart windows and if you get the same error try deleting nsm.exe and rename or copy and rename your backup.nsm to nsm.exe and try to run it. If it runs then somehow you executable is getting corrupted.
-Jeff
Reply author: liebowij
Replied on: 06/27/2004 11:23:41 PM
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Originally posted by Cool4u2view
You don't have any weird antivirus programs running do you? I suppose you don't have any virii that would overwrite a section of the executable either... but you could really only know by having antivirus software.
Yeah, I have antivirus software, but it only runs when I ask it to scan things, it wont run one exe's being executed, and NSM is the only file with this problem.
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Upon recreation of the exe if you make a copy (don't run it) and rename it to say backup.nsm restart windows and if you get the same error try deleting nsm.exe and rename or copy and rename your backup.nsm to nsm.exe and try to run it. If it runs then somehow you executable is getting corrupted.
I tried it, and it does the exact same thing. Both files will not execute after I reboot. I have installed programs recently, and they work fine... I think my windows installation is tanked, and I just need to go back to Linux.... I got used to windows when I was out of the country for 6 months and my linux harddrive died on me. Now that I have it up and running, I should just use positron and linux from now on.... is positron working well since the recent database changes? Do I have to do anything special to make my database files compatible?
thanks
Reply author: webkid
Replied on: 06/28/2004 01:14:11 AM
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Bleach, avoid Positron. Install the Java Runtime and use NDBM.
http://neurosdbm.sf.net/
Reply author: kronin
Replied on: 06/28/2004 10:26:15 AM
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Originally posted by liebowij(at)hotmail.com
...I should just use positron and linux from now on.... is positron working well since the recent database changes? Do I have to do anything special to make my database files compatible?
thanks
Positron doesn't support Artists -> Albums yet. Not sure where they are on getting that implemented, either. If you don't like Java, then you can use Sorune. It's a perl sync manager that works very well. Personally I use NeurosDBM, but then again I write Java code for a living. To each his own...
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/sorune/
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