Garbage branch on SourceForge
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Topic author: Gar Bage
Subject: Garbage branch on SourceForge SourceForge Project homepage.
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Posted on: 10/11/2004 12:10:34 PM
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GarBage branch official CHANGELOG:
Did you read the CHANGELOG?
Ok, so you can download firmware binaries here.
Edited:
- Updated links.
- Removed huge list of changes, please refer to the links.
-- Help put peace in the world. Buck Fush, Bill Kush.
Reply author: SilentGuy
Replied on: 10/11/2004 1:17:21 PM
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nice! I really appreciate your hard work and I think you are doing a very fine job with this!!
I just kinda dislike this CVS interface... cvs is nice, but this sf-version is strange. at first those tags did not do what i wanted them to do. now they do as i want but it seems that it also updates slowly, as there is neither a new version of the changelog nor a new woid.hex.
And the cvs interface i have on my pc (just the one integrated in my java IDE) does not show any of your files at all 'cause i have not found the "tag" option there at all...
Reply author: webkid
Replied on: 10/12/2004 10:28:42 PM
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Man. I shouldn't even have a branch after all the work GarBage has put into this...
Reply author: noiz
Replied on: 10/12/2004 10:31:13 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by webkid
Man. I shouldn't even have a branch after all the work GarBage has put into this...
yeah, GarBage has done so much on the progress of the open source firmware. the only thing that ive been able to change in the firmware is the version number... im so glad that he is making good progress on the firmware and is fixing many bugs and doing requests from bugzilla.
-noiz
Reply author: huges84
Replied on: 10/12/2004 11:39:48 PM
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quote:
yeah, GarBage has done so much on the progress of the open source firmware. the only thing that ive been able to change in the firmware is the version number... im so glad that he is making good progress on the firmware and is fixing many bugs and doing requests from bugzilla.
For sure.
Garbage thank you for all your hardwork. Knocking out bugzilla entries is a sweet thing. Your gifts to the community are appreciated.
Order #7845 - 256MB/30GB Bundle
Reply author: yosoyelgerman
Replied on: 10/13/2004 6:03:24 PM
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Hi. I was unable to install this firmware. my neuros says "brong Check sum" or something like that. I really want to try this firmware. Can anyone help me? Sorry for my Tarzan English. I'm an Uruguayan Neuros Lover. Thanks.
Reply author: noiz
Replied on: 10/13/2004 6:05:36 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by yosoyelgerman
Hi. I was unable to install this firmware. my neuros says "brong Check sum" or something like that. I really want to try this firmware. Can anyone help me? Sorry for my Tarzan English. I'm an Uruguayan Neuros Lover. Thanks.
you know, you could get a spanish version of the firmware because garbage is from spain...
-noiz
Reply author: findbuddha
Replied on: 10/13/2004 6:31:46 PM
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Try re-downloading woid.hex. And check the filesize, should be about 1.7meg. Or get the woid.hex.bz2 (http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/neuros-firmware/neuros-firmware/source/DEBUGFLASHER/Debug/Attic/woid.hex.bz2?rev=1.1.2.2&only;_with_tag=garbage&view;=log)
That way when you unzip the bz2 file it will definitely be the full file (winzip should do it).
I have had some problems with the download finishing early, redownloading usually fixes it.
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Watching the weather change
Reply author: Gar Bage
Replied on: 10/13/2004 7:26:13 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by yosoyelgerman
Hi. I was unable to install this firmware. my neuros says "brong Check sum" or something like that. I really want to try this firmware. Can anyone help me? Sorry for my Tarzan English. I'm an Uruguayan Neuros Lover. Thanks.
Maybe you want to try the pre-release version i currently use myself.
It is in Spanish (well, most of it is actually joke after joke).
This release also features:
- Bugzilla #213 (First 15 seconds not presettable)
You can preset any point if the track is paused.
If not, the preset will be applied to the start of the track.
- Press rewind on the first 5 seconds of a song to go to the previous one (if not paused).
- Tri-state MyFi. On, Off, and Auto-detect choices.
-- Spanish fiendly translation follows:
Quizá quieras probar la versión de pruebas que estoy usando ahora mismo.
Está en español (en una traducción algo divertida).
Esta versión incluye, además:
- Bugzilla #213 (Los primeros 15 segundos no son preseteados)
Puedes presetear cualquier punto de un tema si está pausado.
Si no, se aplicará al inicio del mismo.
- Pulsar rebobinar durante los primeros cinco segundos te lleva al tema anterior (siempre que el actual no esté en pausa).
- Tres estados para MyFi. Las opciones son Si, No y Auto.
Here is the link.
And here is the MD5SUM.
It should read: 54ff01052431c39dd63b7ee3806432dd
It will be ephimerous, though. So hurry on.
-- Help put peace in the world. Buck Fush, Bill Kush.
Reply author: chad(at)gambit.net
Replied on: 10/18/2004 08:34:43 AM
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Holy cow, Gar!
You've done a ton of work on that thar firmare. Someone give this guy a medal or somethin'.
Gimme a day or two and I'll be testing your firmware now that 2.25 is no longer beta.
Reply author: taihlo
Replied on: 11/08/2004 5:18:23 PM
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Hi everyone,
Just to be clear, I am not a moron... Thanks got that out of the way... I just got my Neuros from the deal at woot.com and I can say it is a nice little machine. I was directed here to look for new firmware that makes it run better and all. I have spent 2 days now reading on Garbage's branch of Sourceforge, and I have but one simple question... HOW do I actually upgrade to the open source firmware? I am not looking to develop my own and I have downloaded the woid.hex files... but I have no clue how to make my Neuros actually take them. I understand that I am behind the times when it comes to Linux and I am trying to learn, but for now... is there anyone out there that can tell me simply, how to get this to work?
Reply author: JoeBorn
Replied on: 11/08/2004 5:23:48 PM
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well, I haven't used a USB 1.1 unit in a while, but my recollection is that it works the same. Turn on while holding the down position. The device should go into a special manual firmware upload mode. Then just copy the woid.hex file to the firmware subdirectory that you see on the device and then when it's done copying, just unplug the USB cable and it should detect the new firmware and prompt you to upgrade.
quote:
Originally posted by taihlo(at)nycap.rr.com
Hi everyone,
Just to be clear, I am not a moron... Thanks got that out of the way... I just got my Neuros from the deal at woot.com and I can say it is a nice little machine. I was directed here to look for new firmware that makes it run better and all. I have spent 2 days now reading on Garbage's branch of Sourceforge, and I have but one simple question... HOW do I actually upgrade to the open source firmware? I am not looking to develop my own and I have downloaded the woid.hex files... but I have no clue how to make my Neuros actually take them. I understand that I am behind the times when it comes to Linux and I am trying to learn, but for now... is there anyone out there that can tell me simply, how to get this to work?
jborn (at) neurosaudio.com
Reply author: Yono
Replied on: 11/08/2004 5:37:48 PM
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Yep, the bootloader works normally on the USB 1.1 units, with no extra steps nessesary.
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Reply author: taihlo
Replied on: 11/09/2004 07:37:46 AM
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Thank you so much, you wouldn't believe how difficult it is to find that information... I would have figured it would be the first question on the FAQ...
Thanks again.
-Taihlo
[quote]Originally posted by JoeBorn
well, I haven't used a USB 1.1 unit in a while, but my recollection is that it works the same. Turn on while holding the down position. The device should go into a special manual firmware upload mode. Then just copy the woid.hex file to the firmware subdirectory that you see on the device and then when it's done copying, just unplug the USB cable and it should detect the new firmware and prompt you to upgrade.
Reply author: Yono
Replied on: 11/09/2004 7:09:46 PM
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Its actually in all the readmes for the official firmwares. 
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Reply author: kronin
Replied on: 11/10/2004 10:22:08 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by Yono
Its actually in all the readmes for the official firmwares.
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Linky
Reply author: keyboards
Replied on: 11/10/2004 3:58:27 PM
Message:
Has anyone else noticed recording issues on GarBage's latest firmware? (2.26.1.6) I have 2 major problems:
1) Stopping a recording freezes on "Finishing Recording" and then I have to Up/Play the Neuros off. Recordings are not always added to the database, but are usually recorded to disk as normal. Even if added to the database, they are not always playable until downloaded to my computer.
2) After freezing and restarting, the device won't synch until I reload the firmware.
Reply author: Koron
Replied on: 11/10/2004 6:50:00 PM
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I pretty much loaded GarBage's from the start, but I can tell you that, yes, it does seem as though it is locked up, but if you wait a bit it will usually go eventually.
Is the little dot in the righthand corner blinking?
I actually modded the text in my firmware to say 'Saving...' on that screen so that I realize what it's doing.
Was this behavior not present in the official firmware?
Also, the sync thing...have you booted it up after doing the force-off key combo and then turned it back off (a clean shutdown), and finally back on? I think that this has worked for me if it stops talking to the computer. Otherwise you may want to try formatting the NAND.
Reply author: JoeBorn
Replied on: 11/10/2004 7:02:48 PM
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I have noticed similiar behavior on the end of a recording, and the circle does continue to blink, but it goes on for minutes and minutes. I finally gave up after probably 15 minutes.
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Originally posted by keyboards(at)shaw.ca
Has anyone else noticed recording issues on GarBage's latest firmware? (2.26.1.6) I have 2 major problems:
1) Stopping a recording freezes on "Finishing Recording" and then I have to Up/Play the Neuros off. Recordings are not always added to the database, but are usually recorded to disk as normal. Even if added to the database, they are not always playable until downloaded to my computer.
2) After freezing and restarting, the device won't synch until I reload the firmware.
jborn (at) neurosaudio.com
Reply author: Yono
Replied on: 11/10/2004 8:21:48 PM
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For #2, make sure you have formatted your NAND, that seems to fix it most of the time.
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Reply author: keyboards
Replied on: 11/10/2004 8:23:25 PM
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Koron & JoeBorn:
With 2.25 it would "finish recording" and eventually return to the Recordings menu, sometimes taking its sweet time. With GarBage's the circle blinks, then eventually stops and freezes. All buttons are frozen, backlight does not respond. Never finishes.
quote:
I have noticed similiar behavior on the end of a recording, and the circle does continue to blink, but it goes on for minutes and minutes. I finally gave up after probably 15 minutes.
The first time it happened I freaked out because I couldn't get it to synch even after I did things exactly as you descibe, including NAND reformat. And I couldn't upload firmware because the computer wouldn't see the drive. (found out that with brain removed, computer reads drive normally) Then realised that last firmware was still saved on HD, so reloaded it and presto, synching available.
quote:
Also, the sync thing...have you booted it up after doing the force-off key combo and then turned it back off (a clean shutdown), and finally back on? I think that this has worked for me if it stops talking to the computer. Otherwise you may want to try formatting the NAND.
Reply author: Koron
Replied on: 11/10/2004 8:30:53 PM
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Well, does anyone have any clue why it takes so long after the recording? Is it recording to the flash memory and then transferring to the HDD after finishing?
Reply author: JoeBorn
Replied on: 11/10/2004 8:33:22 PM
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presumably it's rebuilding the database somehow after adding that recording as any entry.
jborn (at) neurosaudio.com
Reply author: mgao
Replied on: 11/10/2004 9:11:11 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Koron
Well, does anyone have any clue why it takes so long after the recording?
It takes so _long_ to do the following,
-- flush NAND cache back to HDD;
-- close HDD file;
-- add track into database;
-- create sync request;
-- update other related system information, DB changed, disk size flush etc.
Reply author: Gar Bage
Replied on: 11/11/2004 04:48:15 AM
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I can confirm 2.26.1.6 freezes when updating the database after a recording. This will be sorted out on future releases.
I have experienced no problems with USB syncing, though.
-- Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Ben Franklin)
Reply author: keyboards
Replied on: 11/11/2004 10:18:09 AM
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Thanks GarBage. At least I know it's not just my device. Hopefully when that problem is fixed the synch issue will disappear as well, because they seem to be related for me.
Reply author: gws1683
Replied on: 11/12/2004 7:14:31 PM
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Does the database actually update or will the file at least show up on the drive? Anyone not been able to recover a file? I haven't experienced this problem yet-everything has been normal (on line-in 44.1 wav, lengths 2 min - 3hrs.), but I'm concerned about losing future recordings.
GarBage- Thanks for all your work on this firmware. I'm much happier with my Neuros because of it.
Reply author: Gar Bage
Replied on: 11/12/2004 10:04:20 PM
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That bug is only noticed when updating the database, after the file was saved. So, AFAIK, no choice of losing a recording due to that bug.
In fact, after failing miserably to update the recording database the Neuros flags itself as having a 'pending update operation', on subsequents boot-ups it'll try to recover from that pending operation and will fail again when updating the database. The current workaround is to perform a NAND format. Pretty annoying, i must say.
I located the bug, but ATM i'm not able to sort it out. I'll try and push my brains harder.
Thank you for testing and pointing out bugs, man.
-- Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Ben Franklin)
Reply author: Ziviyr
Replied on: 11/13/2004 01:38:49 AM
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Is any of the GarBage firmware being considered for inclusion in the official firmware?
Reply author: keyboards
Replied on: 11/13/2004 3:12:08 PM
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I've reverted to GarBage's ver 2.26.13 and the freezing on recording saves seems to have gone away. I don't need timed recording anyway.
Reply author: Q-W-Y
Replied on: 11/17/2004 11:58:32 AM
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My Neuros freezed yesterday during recording to WAV at time about 30 minutes. It was powered from the wall. Used fw 2.26.1.6.garbage
I will have to rollback too....
-----Q-W-Y, Czech paranoid android-----
btw now i see that 2.26.1.6 have problems with memory indicator...
Reply author: sigma2805
Replied on: 11/20/2004 12:37:53 AM
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hi,
been awhile since i posted here....anyway...i updated to the garbage source. nice job! anyway...what is the little number in the bottom right corner where the battery is? i suppose its battery power but what does it mean.
Reply author: Yono
Replied on: 11/21/2004 8:05:09 PM
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Voltage. On the HD backpack +/-417 is ideal max. If you want to change back to the battery icon, put on the lock, and hold down on the keypad while you unlock.
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Reply author: encosion's neuros died again... encosion has left the building in a huff, never to return...
Replied on: 11/22/2004 4:16:22 PM
Message:
quote:aaaah! ..and at what value is the Neuros set to shut down?
Originally posted by Yono : Voltage. On the HD backpack +/-417 is ideal max...
:: peace out ::: :: :
Reply author: Yono
Replied on: 11/22/2004 7:21:04 PM
Message:
Dunno, 350-360 maybe? Don't quote me on this.
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Reply author: Q-W-Y
Replied on: 11/28/2004 1:55:15 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Yono
Voltage. On the HD backpack +/-417 is ideal max. If you want to change back to the battery icon, put on the lock, and hold down on the keypad while you unlock.
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Hmm... I have usually voltage at 426 (full charge)
-----Q-W-Y, Czech paranoid android-----
Reply author: Matthias Halibrand
Replied on: 11/29/2004 03:21:25 AM
Message:
Hey guys,
I updated to this branch, but do not understand the modes of the HiSi-Button. Could someone explain them, or point me to a link?
THX very much,
Matthias
Liebe und Frieden ...
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 12/24/2004 12:45:04 PM
Message:
I just got my Neuros and this interface is annoying me to death. One of the great things about the ipod was the artist->album browsing. You can do this with the Neuros but it takes like 7-8 clicks. It would be really nice if albums was the first selection, then it would pop up a list of artists... you click the artist, click the album then click the song. Much easier than Neuros audio->scroll down->albums->artist->album->song.
------Order #9082 :D
Reply author: Matthias Halibrand
Replied on: 12/25/2004 03:57:01 AM
Message:
Since what you seem to want is not really a hardware-complain, you should post it either in the forums of NDBM or sorune.
http://neurosdbm.sourceforge.net/
http://www.sorune.com/
I suggest sorune, since it has much more submenu-specials implemented and so I guess, Kevin is the one who knows most about it!
He will be able to tell if he could change it via the synch-manager or if it needs to be changed within the firmware!
Greets,
Matthias
Liebe und Frieden ...
Reply author: mbryner
Replied on: 12/26/2004 12:36:19 PM
Message:
The firmware needs to be changed before the sync-manager will support it. The Sorune maintainer has tried to change the database/browsing look-and-feel, but the firmware didn't let him. I believe GarBage is working on it slowly.
Marcus
Reply author: encosion's neuros died again... encosion has left the building in a huff, never to return...
Replied on: 12/26/2004 5:17:18 PM
Message:
quote:vote for this : http://bugzilla.neurosaudio.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=206
Originally posted by Sottilde : I just got my Neuros and this interface is annoying me to death. One of the great things about the ipod was the artist->album browsing. You can do this with the Neuros but it takes like 7-8 clicks...
:: peace out ::: :: :
Reply author: chiefdaddy
Replied on: 12/28/2004 9:00:41 PM
Message:
Hi I just updated the firmware of my Neuros II 30GB HD to Version 2.26.1.7.garbage
Thank you for your modifications... great stuff! I primarily use my Neuros for recording (mostly wav sometimes mp3)
One thing I noticed which could be a small bug...
After recording with mic or line-in, the recording is not shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and cannot be played until Neuros is synchronized with NSM. The message "No records available!" is shown.
With the main firmware branch, after recording with mic or line-in, the new recording file is shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and can be played without having to be synchronized with NSM
Before updating to this branch, I would listen to new recordings on the way home before synchronization with NSM... this is no longer possible with Version 2.26.1.7.garbage
Reply author: fretless6
Replied on: 01/17/2005 09:28:25 AM
Message:
I'm experienceing the same thing as CheifDaddy- the recording is not added to the database in GarBage 2.26.1.7 when it's finished. (80 gb Neuros 2)
I also noticed somethign else- sometimes (with this and with the current Neuros Firmware v2.25 the line in isin't recognized - no levels appear, nor do the indicators. I suspect it occurs if the recording is started from anything but the root menu, but i'm not sure. When I get a few min i'll see if I can duplicate it. Other times it doesn't reconignize the left side- although I suspect this to be a hardware issue with mine- anyone else experienceing this?
Other than that- i'm floored at how fast everything is with this frimware!
Killer job Gar Bage!
Reply author: chiefdaddy
Replied on: 01/18/2005 08:22:09 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by fretless6
I also noticed somethign else- sometimes (with this and with the current Neuros Firmware v2.25 the line in isin't recognized - no levels appear, nor do the indicators. Anyone else experienceing this?
I have never experienced this. Sounds like it could be a hardware problem. I am now using 2.26.1.3.garbage
Reply author: ClusterOne
Replied on: 01/18/2005 08:30:55 AM
Message:
One thing I've noticed about this firmware, (congrats btw, Gar Bage, it's great stuff!!) is that if you are browsing by albums->artist and you just press play on an artist name (which with the NA fw would go to first album/first song if on sequential or random/random if not), it instead seems to play a random song from the database with the Tag info of the first song of the FIRST album in the database. This might be expected or intended behavior, I just thought I'd make you aware!
Thanks for everything brother!
here I is.
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 01/19/2005 6:21:47 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by chiefdaddy
Hi I just updated the firmware of my Neuros II 30GB HD to Version 2.26.1.7.garbage
Thank you for your modifications... great stuff! I primarily use my Neuros for recording (mostly wav sometimes mp3)
One thing I noticed which could be a small bug...
After recording with mic or line-in, the recording is not shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and cannot be played until Neuros is synchronized with NSM. The message "No records available!" is shown.
With the main firmware branch, after recording with mic or line-in, the new recording file is shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and can be played without having to be synchronized with NSM
Before updating to this branch, I would listen to new recordings on the way home before synchronization with NSM... this is no longer possible with Version 2.26.1.7.garbage
This is a known bug. I reported it more than a month ago.
http://neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/GarBageDiscussion
Search for "(2.26.1.7) Recordings not added to DB"
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'
Reply author: Batsoni
Replied on: 01/22/2005 10:55:15 AM
Message:
I am a Neuros newbie. Could someone please help me. I'm trying to switch to GarBage's firmware. I was able to download woid.hex. Which directory do I save it into on my Neuros? Then, if I'm not mistaken, I have to hold DOWN and shut down, then hold DOWN and boot up, then shut down, then hold presets 1 and 5 and boot up (which I gather is called formatting the NAND, or does it just put me into diagnostics mode where I have the option to format the NAND?). At this point I think I'm a little fuzzy and could use some clarification.
This seems to be a fairly popular thing to do. Speaking on behalf of newbies both present and future, if someone could post detailed, clear, step-by-step instructions on how to perform this involved task, we would be forever in your debt. All I read about on the forum is how touchy the Neuros is. I'm afraid to play around to try and figure this out for myself for fear of screwing things up irretrievably.
GarBage, I have yet to take advantage of your efforts, but I would like to thank you in advance for all of the effort you have put into making this excellent device even better. I can't wait to find out for myself how much better.
Also, which version should I install for least amount of quirkiness? 2.26.1.6 or 2.26.1.7, or should I go back even further?
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 01/22/2005 12:03:41 PM
Message:
Alright- first of all, the newest GarBage release is free of quirks - minus the database not updating itself after you record. If you just sync again with NSM/NDBM/Sorune, the recording will then show up.
To update:
1. Download woid.hex
2. Put it in [Neuros Drive]:\Firmware
3. Shut down the Neuros with Down+Play
4. Start it up with Down+Play
5. Follow the onscreen instructions.
It should be as simple as that. Formatting the NAND afterwords with 1+5+Play is not necessary, but you can do it if you want. It won't affect the data on your HD, nor will it affect the database.
------Order #9082 :D
Reply author: Batsoni
Replied on: 01/22/2005 1:34:36 PM
Message:
Bless you sir, Bless you.
Reply author: fretless6
Replied on: 02/02/2005 12:26:45 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by chiefdaddy
[
I have never experienced this. Sounds like it could be a hardware problem. I am now using 2.26.1.3.garbage
Does this version update the database properly and allow you to listen to recordings immediately after making them?
Thanks
Reply author: chiefdaddy
Replied on: 02/02/2005 1:22:03 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by fretless6quote:
Originally posted by chiefdaddy
I am now using 2.26.1.3.garbage
Does this version update the database properly and allow you to listen to recordings immediately after making them?
Thanks
Yes recordings are added to database. This update has better recording meters. However... I've been having a problem where Sometimes xp doesn't detect neuros and doesn't show up as harddrive in explorer. If I snap off the front piece and hook the usb2 cable to just the harddrive while the power is not plugged in then it does detect.
I don't know if this is related but this is something I have been living with. I spoke with neuros support and they recommended I try the firmware 2.25.
I primarily use the unit for recording so if I have better meters and can get the files off then that's good enough for me for now.
Reply author: nibbles
Replied on: 02/18/2005 02:42:51 AM
Message:
My XP will freak out if I disconnect the Neuros from a USB port and
later plug it into a different USB port.
I must always connect to the same USB port!
Reply author: encosion's neuros died again... encosion has left the building in a huff, never to return...
Replied on: 02/18/2005 08:03:48 AM
Message:
quote:Nope, sounds like somethings wrong. Check that you're "Safely Removing your Hardware" and not just yanking out the USB chord when you're done... But you should posting a new topic for questions such as this, which are unrelated to this thread btw.
Originally posted by nibbles : My XP will freak out if I disconnect the Neuros from a USB port and later plug it into a different USB port.
I must always connect to the same USB port!
:: peace out ::: :: :
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 02/26/2005 8:48:30 PM
Message:
So when's the next update? It's been about 2 months...
------Order #9082 :D
Reply author: guttrhead(at)gmail.com
Replied on: 02/26/2005 9:28:32 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Sottilde
So when's the next update? It's been about 2 months...
------Order #9082 :D
They're probably waiting until 2.28 gets out of beta and goes open source
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 02/28/2005 7:25:28 PM
Message:
Also, I think the new firmware team is still ramping up.
Once they get going, the trees need to be merged so that there is only one tree everybody contributes to & builds from.
That should happen soon.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 02/28/2005 9:14:23 PM
Message:
I can't wait for that. I would really like to see some good concentrated work being done on the firmware. Anyone know an ETA on when the new team's coming around? I've heard for more than a month that it's coming... just hoping it's soon.
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Reply author: esquire
Replied on: 03/05/2005 1:05:59 PM
Message:
thank 4 your work
Reply author: esquire
Replied on: 03/05/2005 1:11:47 PM
Message:
how do i compile the source code? i a at the html code page,
ultra newbie
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 03/07/2005 12:04:25 PM
Message:
Just download the binary package.
http://neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/DownloadsHub
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'
Reply author: esquire
Replied on: 03/08/2005 12:14:31 PM
Message:
got it up and running, it rocks!
tecchie helped me a ton
step by step....
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1. download the firmware file
Easier way is dump a folder on your neuros called "firmware" then dump the firmware file into it..
Power up the neuros and then hold DOWN and the POWER button until it turns off.. DO NOT LET GO OF THE BUTTONS..
Once it's off, let go of the buttons..
Then wait a second, then press DOWN and POWER down first then
power.. You should be at a screen asking to flash from firmware found and/or it might ask you to insert the power cable..
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thanks tecchie
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 03/08/2005 1:50:21 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by esquire
got it up and running, it rocks!
tecchie helped me a ton
step by step....
-------------------------------------------
1. download the firmware file
Easier way is dump a folder on your neuros called "firmware" then dump the firmware file into it..
Power up the neuros and then hold DOWN and the POWER button until it turns off.. DO NOT LET GO OF THE BUTTONS..
Once it's off, let go of the buttons..
Then wait a second, then press DOWN and POWER down first then
power.. You should be at a screen asking to flash from firmware found and/or it might ask you to insert the power cable..
-----------------------------------------
thanks tecchie
You can let go of the buttons when it displays the shutting down message.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'
Reply author: 8thNote
Replied on: 03/08/2005 2:54:26 PM
Message:
Is there a good single place where the general feature differences are listed? Going through huge lists of version changes is not very practical.
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Reply author: PeregrineBF
Replied on: 03/09/2005 04:58:48 AM
Message:
This should be good for now.
Hail Eris!
Reply author: Matthias Halibrand
Replied on: 03/09/2005 08:24:41 AM
Message:
Hail Discordia!
Callisti!
Liebe und Frieden ...
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 03/09/2005 7:47:21 PM
Message:
I suppose the known bugs column at the bottom isn't very reliable. Most of those were fixed. The bug fixes and added features column is good, though :)
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Reply author: PeregrineBF
Replied on: 03/10/2005 12:39:58 AM
Message:
I just copied his changelogs and reorganised it.
Besides, it's a wiki. If it's wrong, fix it!
Or tell me what is wrong, and I'll fix it.
Hail Eris!
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 03/10/2005 4:38:27 PM
Message:
:D Done.
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Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 06/11/2005 07:37:24 AM
Message:
Any updates coming soon, GarBage?
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Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 06/28/2005 9:53:55 PM
Message:
Yo! GarBage! Wake up
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Reply author: Gar Bage
Replied on: 07/03/2005 04:36:43 AM
Message:
I've already merged the latest additions to the official 2.28 firmware on my branch. (Yes, that means File Browsing and Neutris).
Unfortunately, i can't test it since i'm still waiting for a hardware replacement. Once i have a working unit, i'll release the new revision.
Thank you all for the interest.
-- Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Ben Franklin)
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 07/03/2005 08:27:06 AM
Message:
Excellent to hear! Is there a way for the rest of us to get a hold of this, before the "official" testing and release? I would be happy to try it out and let you know of any serious bugs.
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Reply author: jimbo(at)pybe.co.uk
Replied on: 07/04/2005 12:53:14 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Sottilde
Excellent to hear! Is there a way for the rest of us to get a hold of this, before the "official" testing and release? I would be happy to try it out and let you know of any serious bugs.
Me too, recently converted to the garbage branch a couple of weeks ago, would love to try out the new version. Also can you turn off the car mode on the new one as my player occasionally turns itself off in the middle of a song if it (i guess) gets a voltage drop while on batt.
Cheers
Pybe
Reply author: guttrhead(at)gmail.com
Replied on: 07/06/2005 08:17:06 AM
Message:
can it handle adding recordings to the database yet?
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 07/31/2005 01:37:25 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Gar Bage
I've already merged the latest additions to the official 2.28 firmware on my branch. (Yes, that means File Browsing and Neutris).
Unfortunately, i can't test it since i'm still waiting for a hardware replacement. Once i have a working unit, i'll release the new revision.
Thank you all for the interest.
-- Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Ben Franklin)
So... anything happen to this? Do you have a beta we can test, perhaps?
Oh, also - a side question... did the recording bug get fixed?
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Reply author: anilash
Replied on: 08/03/2005 12:48:40 PM
Message:
Ya...anything happen to this???
cooldude
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 08/03/2005 4:29:37 PM
Message:
It's been 7 months since the last release... what happened, dude?
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Reply author: Gar Bage
Replied on: 08/10/2005 12:40:14 PM
Message:
Sorry, i still do not have the hardware to play the tests on.
And i refuse to release anything without testing it myself, for your own health shake.
No progresses on the recording bug (or any other new functionality) either, for the very same reason.
I'll keep hacking on this thing once i have a working N, but unfortunately this is still not the situation right now. And, believe me, no one is nearly as pissed off by that than myself.
-- Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. (Ben Franklin)
Reply author: Matthias Halibrand
Replied on: 08/11/2005 12:31:08 PM
Message:
Hey Neuros-Team,
give that guy a working unit! He's begging and you won't hear him! :)
Honestly, I'm even thinking of sending him my spare-one for testing-purpose! :)
Matthias
Liebe und Frieden ...
Reply author: singaiya
Replied on: 08/13/2005 12:07:09 PM
Message:
I'm having problems with flashing.
- copied the woid.hex to a folder on the Neuros
- disconnect usb cable
- pressed down + play to shut down
- pressed down + play to turn on
- at prompt, plug in usb cable
- nothing happens. buttons don't respond. screen still says "Please Plug in USB cable and Download Software... V03.14.02.06"
Where did I go wrong? TIA...
Reply author: Yono
Replied on: 08/13/2005 12:18:57 PM
Message:
Is the folder called "firmware"?
-- 'Microsoft Works is an Oxymoron'
Reply author: singaiya
Replied on: 08/13/2005 12:43:58 PM
Message:
No, I named it "Garbage". Does it need to called "Firmware"? I'll try that now.
Reply author: singaiya
Replied on: 08/13/2005 12:46:23 PM
Message:
Ah, that did it. Thanks!
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 08/20/2005 3:06:38 PM
Message:
Bump for GarBage, hoping that new Firmware is out soon..
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Reply author: anilash
Replied on: 08/21/2005 10:35:13 AM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Gar Bage
I've already merged the latest additions to the official 2.28 firmware on my branch. (Yes, that means File Browsing and Neutris).
I thought I might checkout the branch, compile it for myself and try out the 2.28 features. Compiled it successfully, but couldn't find the new features (the neutris (UI_SF_game.c) and browser (UI_SF_browser.c) files were not there). Am I missing something?
cooldude
Reply author: Matthias Halibrand
Replied on: 08/21/2005 10:59:13 AM
Message:
I doubt he would put it online without testing! That's what he meant. He won't release the changes before he saw the code running with his own eyes ...
Greets,
Matthias
Liebe und Frieden ...
Reply author: guttrhead(at)gmail.com
Replied on: 08/22/2005 08:18:03 AM
Message:
he has a new player now, so it should be ready soon.
Reply author: Matthias Halibrand
Replied on: 08/22/2005 08:22:02 AM
Message:
Thank god, I can keep my spare-unit, now.
Matthias
Liebe und Frieden ...
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 08/27/2005 11:19:18 AM
Message:
Another bump... keep workin dude :)
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Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 09/10/2005 11:41:57 AM
Message:
A bump and reminder for GarBage :)
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Reply author: Tecchie
Replied on: 09/28/2005 11:02:22 AM
Message:
Hey, when are you going to release the 2.28 Garbage firmware? I'd love to be the first to try it out, please update your site so we can have it loaded into our players.
It jsut seems to me that since the two new toys came out, no one cares about the audio player anymore. :(
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Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 10/23/2005 5:30:49 PM
Message:
GarBage... what... happened?
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Reply author: guttrhead(at)gmail.com
Replied on: 10/24/2005 08:29:34 AM
Message:
Yeah, Ive been waiting to switch back to garbage branch because I wanted the 2.28 based one. Didn't he say he had it all ready and just needed to test it about 2 months ago?
Reply author: datac
Replied on: 10/25/2005 11:25:04 AM
Message:
There's plenty of us out here who would love to see this...
Reply author: Derek
Replied on: 10/25/2005 1:47:19 PM
Message:
Does anyone know who or where Garbage is? Maybe he cant work on this right now...maybe he has gotten caught up in life...this stuff happens.
When I was a kid my mom used to tell me that curiosity killed the cat...What she forgot to tell me was that it also discovered the cat, invented the lightbulb, and forged the Neuros
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 10/28/2005 5:28:13 PM
Message:
It's been nearly a year... still alive, bud?
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Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 01/18/2006 11:01:12 PM
Message:
Hey hey hey...
Another year, another day...
And still no firmware, nowhere, no way...
And so I must say:
Where are the files? I may
Impore of you to make your way
To the GarBageBranch page today
To update this software and make MY day.
:D
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Reply author: chad(at)gambit.net
Replied on: 01/30/2006 09:23:09 AM
Message:
*Snaps Fingers*
Way groovy.
Reply author: Derek
Replied on: 01/30/2006 10:28:38 AM
Message:
Here is why there has been no Garbage firmware...
http://open.neurosaudio.com/node/187
When I was a kid my mom used to tell me that curiosity killed the cat...What she forgot to tell me was that it also discovered the cat, invented the lightbulb, and forged the Neuros
Reply author: Sottilde
Replied on: 01/30/2006 6:11:40 PM
Message:
quote:
Originally posted by Derek
Here is why there has been no Garbage firmware...
http://open.neurosaudio.com/node/187
That's sad.
Hope he gets better. Maybe someone with more programming experience than I could merge the two branches in a desperate attempt to keep it alive?
I also have a quick question. I really like GarBage's firmware minus one little thing. I don't like how the backlight switches off while charging. Is there a way to keep it on all the time? I use the brick in the car and it is nice to have the backlight on at night. If there isn't a way, what would be the difficulty level of modifying the firmware?
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