Louder MyFi!
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Topic author: TARTZ
Subject: Louder MyFi! This hidden mode will allow you to adjust your MyFi volume:
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Posted on: 05/21/2003 2:57:35 PM
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From the Songs menu do the following key combination: down, rewind, ffwd, up, down. That will turn on the feature and doing that again will turn the feature off. The only way to know if the feature is on or not is during MyFi. The broadcast frequency will be followed by a (gain) representing the gain of the audio. To adjust, use Preset 1 and Preset 5 to go up/down by 3dB, respectively. Preset 3 sets the gain to nominal. Preset 2, Preset 4 increase/decrease gain by 1dB. Maximum gain is 12dB, minimum gain is -6dB. We should mention that since there is such a huge variation from song to song, it is impossible, without a more advanced feature such as volume leveling, to have every song set to optimum. If your songs start distorting, back down on the gain a little.
This feature will not save the volume you have selected when you get out of this mode and will need to be reset every time the Neuros is restarted.
Tim Artz
PS This is only available on firmware version 1.34 or higher http://www.neurosaudio.com/support/support_updates_beta.asp
Neuros Customer Support
Reply author: jahf(at)yahoo.com
Replied on: 05/22/2003 10:19:03 AM
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Okie doke ... I got around to putting 1.34 back on my machine and testing this feature.
From what I can see, it only affects the volume level, not the actual signal strength. While that can help reduce the appearance of static by masking it to some degree, it doesn't do anything to actually improve the signal.
In other words, it helps overcome the static inherent in the MyFi process, but it doesn't help if you are having trouble finding a clear station to lock on to.
It is the signal strength most (or at least I) have been asking for when we ask for "louder" or "stronger" MyFi.
I would love to see some way of boosting the MyFi strength so that I can get as strong a signal when there are no RF cables (or headphones, or power) as when I have everything all plugged in. I'm willing to live with the extra battery drain.
BTW Tim, I'm not saying your tip isn't helpful, I just don't think it covers as many of the requests as the multitude of crossposts had made me hope for ;)
Reply author: jahf(at)yahoo.com
Replied on: 05/22/2003 10:22:33 AM
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Also, it would be much more useful if this feature would stay on through power offs. Unlike my TiVo, which rarely gets powered off, having to enter secret codes on my Neuros every time it is powered up is a pain.
I know, it's a hidden feature, but I think it should be moved to a static option under the MyFi menu. I definitely see it's value.
Reply author: deez
Replied on: 05/22/2003 12:57:32 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by jahf(at)yahoo.com
From what I can see, it only affects the volume level, not the actual signal strength. While that can help reduce the appearance of static by masking it to some degree, it doesn't do anything to actually improve the signal.
You're absolutely correct, but I think the most important benefit of this feature is that the "volume" coming out of your speakers can be made to equal the "volume" of the other radio stations on the dial. That way, there's not that HUGE volume jump when you turn your Neuros off and listen to the radio.
Reply author: Hero
Replied on: 05/24/2003 12:11:01 AM
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Cool....I thought it was strange that the increased volume from 1.30 was removed....silly me you just improved it.
The volume gain sould be in the release notes for v1.34.
Thanks for the tip!
Bryan
Reply author: bhmg(at)aol.com
Replied on: 05/26/2003 7:37:23 PM
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I just tried to install the 1.34 upgrade, but couldn't get it to respond in the fashion spelled out in the release notes.
It worked OK through item 7, but never went from USB active to U
SB idle. I took the instructions literally and copied the "firmware" directory (and its contents, the file named woid.hex) to the removable drive (g on my computer).
The directory tree now has 6 subdirectories including firmware, music, Woid_db, WOID_HISI, WOID_RECORD, and WOID_SYNC.
Did I do something wrong?
Thanks,
Dean Park
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 05/26/2003 9:29:36 PM
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Use the follwing advice at your own risk...
You did nothing wrong ...just close the folder wait about ohh 10 seconds disconnect the cable (yes do it anyway) and follow the instructions.
For some reason mine never went to idle either but I ignored it because I knew my transfer was complete and nothing else was being done on the drive. In my opinion it is perfectly safe if you know it is done with everything else.
Again I say do this at your own risk because everyones computer is different and if you run such apps like virus scanners etc it may in fact be reading your drive.
-Jeff
Reply author: bhmg(at)aol.com
Replied on: 05/28/2003 7:58:57 PM
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Thanks, it worked. The MyFi volume boost is sooo much better. I hope a more convenient way to access it is available soon.
Dean Park
Reply author: shadow-moon(at)msn.com
Replied on: 05/31/2003 1:14:27 PM
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Can we get the the WIFI gain added to the WIFI menu, instend of having it hinden behind a funky set up keys? As it stands on I feel like I am using a cheat code on a game, or a hack. I would like a more refined Fireware.
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 05/31/2003 8:48:36 PM
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You mean MyFi...
-Jeff
Reply author: Hero
Replied on: 06/07/2003 1:41:25 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Hero
Cool....I thought it was strange that the increased volume from 1.30 was removed....silly me you just improved it.
The volume gain sould be in the release notes for v1.34.
Thanks for the tip!
Bryan
I am back to ask that once we put the neuros into the gain mode is holds the setting. I often switch from MyFi to headphones and back. It would be nice to "set it and forget it".....
Bryan
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 06/07/2003 2:55:21 PM
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I'd say something like that would be best implemented when we get bookmarking features.
-Jeff
Reply author: Lou Erickson
Replied on: 07/10/2003 10:52:08 PM
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This is a great feature, and I very much wish it were somehow available during normal use, without having to know secret codes. I hope that this will make the menus sometime soon.
I also would like it to go just a touch higher, if possible, so that it would match the levels of normal radio bands, but it is much, much better now. Instead of being completely inaudible, it's just a little quiet, and changing from one to the other isn't jarring.
Thank you for putting this in!
Reply author: carwashi
Replied on: 08/03/2003 05:14:00 AM
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So any news about this getting added to the MyFi menu anytime soon? I hadnt seen a post on it for a while and just wanted to make sure that everybody didn't forget about it.
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 08/04/2003 12:47:01 AM
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The only thing that would suck about having this on permanently is that you can't use the presets while it's active.
It would be nice to have a way to turn it on and off through the Xi menu though.
Edit:
I got to thinking a bit more about this and it might be a good tradeoff to have an option that toggles what happens when you hold down a preset button between setting a preset and adjusting the gain.
i.e.:
Settings \ Presets \ Hold Function:
- Set Preset
- Adjust Gain
and the preset list could still be available in another menu choice:
Settings \ Presets \ List Presets
Order Number: 2249
Reply author: airberger
Replied on: 08/06/2003 2:02:19 PM
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Just got my Neuros 128 MB/20 GB combo yesterday, everything's gone pretty smoothly so far except buy.com didn't send me the car power adaptor. Oh well.
So the firmware (1.38) and software (1.28) are all pretty up-to-date. Any reason the down-RR-FF-up-down sequence shouldn't work for me? It works in FM mode to show what I think is battery voltage but doesn't work in play mode to allow me to boost MyFi volume. I'm not seeing anything that looks like "gain" following the broadcast frequency. Am I missing something?
Thanks
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 08/06/2003 8:51:22 PM
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MyFi gain seq. is pressed while in the song menu not while in FM mode.
-Jeff
Reply author: airberger
Replied on: 08/07/2003 12:15:39 PM
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Thanks - I guess I didn't make myself clear, but what I meant to say was that I tried the sequence both in the song menu and while a song was playing, but no gain indicators appeared.
In FM Radio mode the same key sequence shows you battery voltage, I was just pointing out that the sequence works as intended in one mode but not in another.
Reply author: Skie
Replied on: 08/08/2003 10:57:38 AM
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Originally posted by airberger
Thanks - I guess I didn't make myself clear, but what I meant to say was that I tried the sequence both in the song menu and while a song was playing, but no gain indicators appeared.
In FM Radio mode the same key sequence shows you battery voltage, I was just pointing out that the sequence works as intended in one mode but not in another.
it took me a few attempts to get it, but while playing a song, do the sequence and you'll see a "(0)" next to the MyFi frequency. Once you see that, start pressing up or down on the presets. :)
Reply author: Skie
Replied on: 08/08/2003 11:05:29 AM
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Just to add, you can hit this sequence a second time to get out of it to use your presets, but once you stop playing a song, the volume gain is lost. But as long as you're playing songs, I believe the gain stays.
Reply author: carwashi
Replied on: 08/12/2003 12:28:53 AM
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The gain will stay as long as you dont turn the Neuros off. So you can stop a song and go to another one and you wont loose the volume.
Reply author: toohot4love
Replied on: 08/12/2003 09:52:21 AM
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Just a silly thought I was having, but why not adjust the default gain to something more audible so we don't have to go through all this nonsense? (also eliminate the secret code, but that's been said a hundred million times already, so I'm just being redundant )
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Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 08/12/2003 4:31:57 PM
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The reason not to is that too much gain causes clipping of the waveform. In keeping it user adjustable a person can make the gain as high as possible without clipping.
-Jeff
Reply author: Nypyren
Replied on: 08/12/2003 8:15:34 PM
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So when are we going to see this as an option that gets saved after you power-off? We've got an equalizer... maybe it should go in there as a 6th bar?
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 09/22/2003 4:31:21 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Chameleon
The only thing that would suck about having this on permanently is that you can't use the presets while it's active.
It would be nice to have a way to turn it on and off through the Xi menu though.
Edit:
I got to thinking a bit more about this and it might be a good tradeoff to have an option that toggles what happens when you hold down a preset button between setting a preset and adjusting the gain.
i.e.:
Settings \ Presets \ Hold Function:
- Set Preset
- Adjust Gain
and the preset list could still be available in another menu choice:
Settings \ Presets \ List Presets
Order Number: 2249
Thinking even more about this has led me to believe that the optimal solution is a menu-based toggle that switches the scroll up/down function between changing the MyFi frequency and the gain.
I envision the menu laid out similar to the "MyFi Mode" Xi menu... Just a simple selector between:
- MyFi Frequency
- Gain adjustment
What do you all think? Agree/disagree
Order Number: 2249
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 09/23/2003 11:18:26 AM
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Seems like a lot of you agree! 
If implemented this way, the level could be indicated just as the volume level is currently when not using MyFi; I don't think it would have to be visible all of the time... Should be able to tap up or down on the rocker switch to show the current gain level.
It would, however, be nice to have a numerical representation somewhere on that little dialog.
Order Number: 2249
Reply author: dpa
Replied on: 10/11/2003 12:49:19 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Skiequote:
Originally posted by airberger
Thanks - I guess I didn't make myself clear, but what I meant to say was that I tried the sequence both in the song menu and while a song was playing, but no gain indicators appeared.
In FM Radio mode the same key sequence shows you battery voltage, I was just pointing out that the sequence works as intended in one mode but not in another.
it took me a few attempts to get it, but while playing a song, do the sequence and you'll see a "(0)" next to the MyFi frequency. Once you see that, start pressing up or down on the presets. :)
HI, I also have firmware 1.38 and still can not make this key sequence work in songs menu. The key sequence seems to work in FM radio.
What is the trick here. Is there a special 'timing' for pressing the key in sequence or what?
I tried in song menu, while a song is playing, etc, but nothing works.
Please explain...
Thanks
dpa
Reply author: Chameleon
Replied on: 10/12/2003 4:57:47 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by dpa
HI, I also have firmware 1.38 and still can not make this key sequence work in songs menu. The key sequence seems to work in FM radio.
What is the trick here. Is there a special 'timing' for pressing the key in sequence or what?
I tried in song menu, while a song is playing, etc, but nothing works.
Please explain...
Thanks
dpa
Well, you do need to be playing a song in MyFi mode to see it work.
Order Number: 2249
Reply author: dpa
Replied on: 10/12/2003 6:48:34 PM
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dpa[/quote]
Well, you do need to be playing a song in MyFi mode to see it work.
Order Number: 2249
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HI,
Well, I said I also tried in song menu and still could not make it work.
Wjat I was asking is if there is a special timing to type these keys.
Do you need to type quickly, slowly, or what?
Just to make sure I understand correctly, the song menu is when the display shows all the songs in the nit, right?
Then if I click down, the selection goes down one line, then rew, ff, down again. I don't see anything changed.
Then I play a song, press down, I see the MyFi freq, but nothing about the volume.
What Am I doing wrong??
dpa
Reply author: carwashi
Replied on: 10/12/2003 7:19:18 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by dpa
dpa
Well, you do need to be playing a song in MyFi mode to see it work.
Order Number: 2249
[/quote]
HI,
Well, I said I also tried in song menu and still could not make it work.
Wjat I was asking is if there is a special timing to type these keys.
Do you need to type quickly, slowly, or what?
Just to make sure I understand correctly, the song menu is when the display shows all the songs in the nit, right?
Then if I click down, the selection goes down one line, then rew, ff, down again. I don't see anything changed.
Then I play a song, press down, I see the MyFi freq, but nothing about the volume.
What Am I doing wrong??
dpa
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The correct sequence is "down, RR, FF, up, down" in the songs menu. After that just play a song and you will be able to adjust the gain in MYFI
Reply author: artur83
Replied on: 12/26/2003 5:13:03 PM
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I finally found out the Gain in the MyFi.. it's in the lower left corner between paranthesis (hard to see compared to the other one)
But when I do the combo in the FM mode I get 2.7Mhz... in big letters and a beeeeeep sound... what's that? no voltage.
Also I think it'd be great to have those features without secret codes... and another feat i'd like to see is the battery meter as long as the screen... to see more precisely the amount of power i have left... It should't be that hard to do...
Who's with me on this one?
Reply author: robburns
Replied on: 01/07/2004 01:00:51 AM
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I would also like this to be changed so that it is not only easier to access, but also so that it stays on power-off. doing this every time i want to use the unit is very combersome.
Reply author: Cool4u2view
Replied on: 01/07/2004 4:16:41 PM
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artur83 that number 2.7 is the voltage and the beep is normal. instead of a really long battery meter it may be best to have the option to display it as a percent.
-Jeff
Reply author: kworces
Replied on: 01/15/2004 10:49:16 PM
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I just started playing around with the gain control in 1.45 and I was happy to find out that the gain level is persistent even when I power it off. And then I was disappointed to find out that the gain is disabled when you don't have the gain control itself on.
I use the Neuros in my car almost exclusively--and it's great because I can just turn it on, hit the preset button for the last playlist I was listening to and I'm good to go. But it's completely impractical to turn it on, enter the code, go into playlists and select a playlist every time I get in the car.
Is there any chance that a firmware release in the near-future would keep the gain where I set it regardless of whether I am in gain control mode?
- Kevin
Reply author: cesar.espindola(at)bol.com.br
Replied on: 02/18/2004 6:39:46 PM
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I just tried many times to set the MyFi's gain but it doesn't work. My firmware version is 1.45. I bought this Neuros a few days ago. I'd like to know if I have to press some buttons together. I'm doing as a sequence.
Thanks.
Reply author: Yono
Replied on: 02/18/2004 7:00:46 PM
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Are you sure you're doing it in the songs menu?
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Reply author: kronin
Replied on: 02/18/2004 10:48:49 PM
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One more time for all the kids at home.
First, how to get into the Songs menu:
Power on, press right twice (once to go into Neuros Audio, and once to go into Songs).
Now, press down, release, press RW, release, press FF, release, press up, release, press down, release. It doesn't need to be done fast like the old konami codes for the Nintendo, just take your time. Now, without the headphones plugged in, play a song. The MyFi frequency will show up in the lower-right corner, as it always does, but there will be a little (0) next to it. This is the gain adjustment. Pressing Preset 1 will increase the gain by 3, pressing Preset 2 will increase it by 1, pressing preset 4 will decrease it by 1, and pressing preset 5 will decrease it by 3.
Also, this key combo isn't going to be needed in Firmware 2.0. The gain is adjustable through an XI menu, and the setting persists through reboots.
Reply author: MasterPi
Replied on: 09/11/2004 8:06:52 PM
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kronin is right, I have 2.21 and it is accessible as "MyFi Gain" in the menu u get when clicking right in the now playing screen when broadcasting. U lose the DJ Functions though (i don't know if those were included in previous versions, i just bought mine; but when im not broadcasting they are in that menu)
The only problem is that my MiFi won't turn on half the time - but thats a subject for another forum.
--Havent stopped drooling scince I found this site
Reply author: webkid
Replied on: 09/11/2004 9:10:19 PM
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Everybody already knows that... this is a really old thread from decades ago.
Reply author: Mojo jojo Joelo
Replied on: 09/15/2004 7:06:14 PM
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. . .7 months later
-sorry but that reply cracked me up.
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