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raider73
Just Posting
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 Posted - 11/16/2005 : 12:40:39 AM
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| Anyone have problems w/ the player crashing and showing just a green screen but w/ sound. I get this very often on certain video files and it's really annoying. You can get out of it by pushing the back/exit buttong repeateditly until you're back in the folder view but the player is basically locked up. You can't view anymore videos w/o turning the player off and then back on(it will load another video but the screen will just be black this 2nd w/ audio). This happens to a lot of video files. I can tell that the video(spike in signal???) is the problem but the 442 should be able to bypass the bad section better than to just lock up. The Pontis MX2020 would show a glitch (blockyness/pixelation) in the video for a second or so and continue just fine. If I manually bypass that section by FF on the 442, then it will be fine. I really wished there was a video firmware upgrade since that's my main reason for getting the 442, I don't even use it as an mp3 player--there are lot of cheaper and much smaller mp3 players on the market. |
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Atreyurock
Posting is for Closers
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Posted - 11/16/2005 : 07:59:47 AM
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| Ive never seen this happen, or heard of this, i have tested pleny of video files too, can you give more information on the video file causing this error? |
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raider73
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Posted - 11/16/2005 : 11:59:36 AM
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Originally posted by Atreyurock
Ive never seen this happen, or heard of this, i have tested pleny of video files too, can you give more information on the video file causing this error?
This happens w/ Joey Season 2 Episode 1-2 HDTV LOL release. It happens w/ Lost Season 2 Episode 3 also plus others but those 2 pop up in my head. Gspot v2.52 gives the following info about the Joey Video file:
Container Section:
OpenDML (AVI v2.0)
DivX Style "packed bitstream" AVI
Interleave: 1 vid frame (42ms), preload=480
Audio frames: Aligned on interleaves
File Length Correct
Video Section:
Codec: xvid Name:XviD and the following abbreviations are highlighted: BVOP, NVOP, and MPG4
Len:00:42:58
Frms:61,816
kbps:904
Qf:0.172
Pics/sec:23.976
Frms/sec:23.976
Frame(wxh):624x352
FAR:1.773(39.22)
PAR:1.000
DAR:1.773(39.22)
Audio:
Codec: 0x0055(MP3, ISO)
Info: 48000Hz 133kb/s total (2 Chnls) LAME 3.95
Maybe I have a defective unit, I don't know, I thought that since it's a gamma product, not everything is suppose to work correctly. I guess no one else has this problem. |
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Gunderstorm
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Posted - 11/16/2005 : 11:24:29 PM
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I thought I coined the term GSoD! Curses! It drives me NUTS!
I found that if the glitch is in the beginning of the video, hitting FF repeatedly to get through it does the trick. Only one vid was totally unwatchable thanks to this flaw.
Thank you for starting this thread. I thought I was going nuts.
I actually mentioned this on 10/03
http://www.neurosaudio.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6453&whichpage;=3&SearchTerms;=green
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I've had days where I've had to use a paperclip to reset the device MULTIPLE times. And thank the Maker I had one handy, cuz I'd have been pretty mad if I couldn't watch my Arrested Development on the train.
What's the cause of these lockups? Sometimes it's from coming right off the charger. Sometimes it's from tranferring files. Sometimes a bad video will make the screen go green and display a grid of tiny little thumbnail images. Either way, I shouldn't have to reset as much as I do.
Could someone at Neuros please tell us what's causing this?
I have photos of the GSoD if anyone would like me to post them. |
Edited by - Gunderstorm on 11/19/2005 02:03:27 AM |
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JoeBorn
Neuros Audio Team
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Posted - 11/17/2005 : 09:53:10 AM
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Well, a few comments, first of all, we're not here to support piracy, and we'd ask that you all be cool about that. As you all should know, we at Neuros are staunch advocates of fair use, and we're pushing hard to expose the abuses of the studios (like this most recent Sony rootkit atrocity) but it undermines our position if we're quietly supporting (or acquising to) piracy on our own forums, or elsewhere. It makes it look like our support for fair use is just a guise for supporting piracy.
As a community, we believe we can win the fight against the locked down future controlled by big media that Hollywood wants, but we can only do it by taking the moral high ground. There are tons of reasonable and legitimate ways to get media contact, please avail yourself of those ways.
I'm sorry for the lecture here, but these are public forums and the higher a profile our fair use fight becomes, the more enemies we are likely to have and they will certainly use any means they can to discredit us, so we have to be careful.
Ok, enough of that, engineering is looking at this and we'll have some answers shortly.
Joe
jborn (at) neurosaudio.com |
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Atreyurock
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Posted - 11/17/2005 : 2:47:46 PM
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 Ok sorry for a late response, since both files you posted are XVID files could you please install MPEG4MODIFER, you can get it
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/MPEG-Modifier-Download-14535.html There.
LOAD the file and tell me what it says under the video TAB, you can also unpack the bitstream and see if that helps (helps with sluggish video and only takes a minute or two.) Again i dont want to know where you got your files im going to assume you recorded the files yourself and converting them Let me know what MPEGmodifer says. |
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raider73
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Posted - 11/17/2005 : 3:26:10 PM
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Originally posted by JoeBorn
Well, a few comments, first of all, we're not here to support piracy, and we'd ask that you all be cool about that. As you all should know, we at Neuros are staunch advocates of fair use, and we're pushing hard to expose the abuses of the studios (like this most recent Sony rootkit atrocity) but it undermines our position if we're quietly supporting (or acquising to) piracy on our own forums, or elsewhere. It makes it look like our support for fair use is just a guise for supporting piracy.
As a community, we believe we can win the fight against the locked down future controlled by big media that Hollywood wants, but we can only do it by taking the moral high ground. There are tons of reasonable and legitimate ways to get media contact, please avail yourself of those ways.
I'm sorry for the lecture here, but these are public forums and the higher a profile our fair use fight becomes, the more enemies we are likely to have and they will certainly use any means they can to discredit us, so we have to be careful.
Ok, enough of that, engineering is looking at this and we'll have some answers shortly.
Joe
jborn (at) neurosaudio.com
Sorry, about that. I guess I misunderstood fair use. Always thought it was okay to record stuff that free over the air like TV and radio. Won't mention it again. |
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raider73
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Posted - 11/17/2005 : 3:29:03 PM
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Originally posted by Atreyurock
Ok sorry for a late response, since both files you posted are XVID files could you please install MPEG4MODIFER, you can get it
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/MPEG-Modifier-Download-14535.html There.
LOAD the file and tell me what it says under the video TAB, you can also unpack the bitstream and see if that helps (helps with sluggish video and only takes a minute or two.) Again i dont want to know where you got your files im going to assume you recorded the files yourself and converting them Let me know what MPEGmodifer says.
Packed bitstream: Yes
QPel: No
GMC: No
Interlaced: No
Aspect ratio: Square pixels
Quant type: H.263
I-VOPs: 630 (1.02%)
P-VOPs: 22227 (35.96%)
B-VOPs: 38957 (63.02%)
S-VOPs: 0 (0.00%)
N-VOPs: 0 (0.00%)
Max consecutive B-VOPs: 2
1 consec: 19.77%
2 consec: 80.23%
Unpacking the bitstream didn't help at all--Still green screen of death. BTW, thanks for your help. |
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Atreyurock
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Posted - 11/18/2005 : 07:56:51 AM
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| First off, you are perfectly ok recording TV and re-encoding it for yourself, on the other hand what you are doing is downloading distributed rips of tv shows. this is a different ballgame. Anyway, that is odd that, the video wont work, i dont notice any special settings that would keep the neurous from playing it, you can re-convert the video and see if that works, if it only work on these 2 files, then i recommend re-coding and dealing with it. im sorry but i dont see anything. I have tutorials up on how to convert and it should take to long. Let me know if you need any more help. It might just be the unit, try a few more XVID files, making sure theres no QPEL,and GMC and see if they run flawlessly if they dont contact neurous. If they do, they shows you have were not encoding by you, that happens sometimes. Like i said i have a easy to follow tutorial written up shouldnt take more then an 30-45 mins each file to re-encode, it sucks but at least they will work. |
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Gunderstorm
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Posted - 11/21/2005 : 08:50:54 AM
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Piracy and whatnot aside, if someone sends me a video that has been encoded with Xvid, I want to be able to pop it on my 442 and play it anywhere. That's it. It should be that simple. There shouldn't be any screwing around or re-encoding. That's what I bought it for, and that's what it should do.
I know that there are dozens of x-factors that the device couldn't possibly account for, but I've gotten the GSoD from probably ten third party Xvid AVIs (out of probably 3 dozen I've tried). It doesn't matter where they came from. |
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