OSD 3

[jackflap]

It needs to have the next-gen interface device.

So far, with the move of content services to the web/PC, there still isnt anything convenient, sexy for sitting on the sofa and home theatre usage.

The Link was a good idea with the keyboard and trackball, but it's not sexy enough.

You need a controller like the ipod touch. Something that can be used as a keyboard and a pointing device at the same time.

[JoeBorn]

How would "what I want to do with that information" help? Why should it be asked in the first place? We wouldn't have had Free Software movement if every manufacturer withheld that information.

I think you are being a bit staunch here.  There are degrees of openness and to chide TI for not being entirely open when they are clearly moving in the right direction, well, I think we should be encouraging them, more bees with honey than vinegar as they say.

[JoeBorn]

It needs to have the next-gen interface device.

Entirely agree, and I think this is one of the key value adds that Neuros has to provide.

[airzimzerker]

This should support high end audio. It should also have all the connections needed to connect it to a home theater system. Touchscreen bluetooth or wifi remote support would be nice. Why not throw a touchscreen display on the front (make it optional). It should be a server and/or nas. HTML control interface from pc on network. Plug in cards for cable card or satellite receiver. HD radio receiver.

I think there is a big hole in the home theater audio products. They are stuck in the home theater receiver box that is very limited. Anything in this area that has limited network functionality is $1500 at the low end. Something that could act as a preprocessor as well as handle video and internet would be a no brainer pruchase for me.

AZ

[infrared]

Hmmmm,

Is this gonna be based on the OMAP3 or 4 platform? I have been working on developing OMAP3 hardware for several months now. Very powerful, that is why Apple chose to use OMAP in the 3GS. I want to know more about the OSD3 outside of the wiki...

[chase.maupin]

Hmmmm,

Is this gonna be based on the OMAP3 or 4 platform? I have been working on developing OMAP3 hardware for several months now. Very powerful, that is why Apple chose to use OMAP in the 3GS. I want to know more about the OSD3 outside of the wiki...

infrared,

The OSD3 is going to be based on our next generation processor which is more powerful than the OMAP3.  The wiki contains information on the top level features of the OSD3 processor.  If you have specific questions please let us know.

Chase

[infrared]

Chase,
The next gen OMAP is the OMAP4. Been trying to find a dev board with bsp on this platform with no luck. What I would like is a full spec list on the board that will be the OSD3. My work on OMAP3 has been with serial/USB com with peripherals and PowerVR accelerated graphics. Will TI include a DSP? if so which one? What I am most interested in is HD encode/decode using dsp. I need examples of hardware for connecting external display and offloading the framebuffer to that display currently (off topic)... Will the OSD3 be portable with its own display?

[ChadV]

Will the OSD3 be portable with its own display?

That would make it a 442. 

[chase.maupin]

Chase,
The next gen OMAP is the OMAP4. Been trying to find a dev board with bsp on this platform with no luck. What I would like is a full spec list on the board that will be the OSD3. My work on OMAP3 has been with serial/USB com with peripherals and PowerVR accelerated graphics. Will TI include a DSP? if so which one? What I am most interested in is HD encode/decode using dsp. I need examples of hardware for connecting external display and offloading the framebuffer to that display currently (off topic)... Will the OSD3 be portable with its own display?

Infrared,

The OSD3 is not based on the OMAP product line.  It is based on the DM product line.  We do not yet have the full spec list of everything that will be on the OSD3.  The peripherals listed on the wiki are what we are getting design quotes on now.

This chip will include a DSP and SGX graphics engine.  The DSP is the new C67x floating point DSP (like the one on the OMAP-L137).

I don't anticipate that the OSD3 will have it's own display.

Chase

[Noobzilla]

Truly facinating discussion!

My 2c.

1.  Spot on with making sure the record functions are bulletproof as possible. Most of my issues with the OSD concern it cutting off the recording after anywhere from 1 hour to 6 minutes.  It is the main reason I am still using Torfu 1.75.

2.  A small detail but I would like to see the playback speeds change from a simple doubling upto 16X to something that allows, say, a 4X, 16X, 60X, 300X progression.  I have a lot of movies.  Recording unattended when the source media (disk) is questionsable and the recording problem mentioned above has meant a lot of time FF through to see if the entire movie is captured.

3.  It maybe totaly impossible, but I would like to see a simple editor for the files that the OSD creates.  Really simple editor.  All I ask is the ability to cut sections (such as commercials) and/or shorten the total length.  Having both would be ideal but if I had to chose, the section cutting tool would be my first choice.


   

[bencal]

irst, great job guys.
I don't own a product from you mainly because living in Europe, It is difficult and costly for an individual to buy one.

I would have the following uses for the OSD3:
1. PVR mediacenter : as such I need on it a CI connector ( Common Interface) and DVB-T/DVB-C/DVB-S receivers (maybe as expansion card). Note that Reelbox(http://www.reelbox.co.uk)  is making such low cost receiver plugin cards and such media center (but cost way too much for me).

2.  HDTV embedded control computer for professionnal use like motion rig (I am actually working on such a project and the OSD fullfill nearly all my requirements) or teleconf system. I need an HD AV input like Firewire (required) and/or HD-SDI or HDMI to connect a professionnal camcoder.

And still dreaming, a PanelLink connector would be interesting to integrate directly the board into a LCD display (for digital signage or PC in a screen (iPad or iMac)).

If Dual SD, single HD port exist on the chip (its ithe case for current DM646x). It would be great to have access to them. I think to stereo projection

I obviously don't need ererything on the same board/product. But having it at least in the dev kit as plugin board with the possibility to retarget the use is perfect for me.

My prioritized whishlist is:
1. Availibility in Europe
2. Firewire
3. pluggable DVB-T/DVB-C board
4. HDMI in
5. CI connector
6.Panel Link

I know I am asking a lot or too much. Those are wishes I have for some time. I am not able to make them true by myself but I would do what I can to make them become reality.

Benoit

[tcmichals]

I was posting on the Leopard site and got notice of OSD3.    I was hoping it would have an interface for a CCD like the Leopard board and also be in the same form factor. 

[chase.maupin]

I don't think there will be CCD.  The size is going to be larger, as least 8"x4" but that is in part to make room for all the connectors including component video in/out, HDMI, PCIe, etc.

[runeks]

Modern devices today needs a pretty UI. And IMO, pretty means animated. I don't think (but would love to be shown otherwise) that an ARM chip with an unaccelerated frame-buffer is up to that job. However the new OMAP3 chips do have an SGX hardware graphics accelerator supporting OpenGL ES, on which I've seen XBMC running (not very well, but it's early days yet).

Such hardware acceleration will make web browsing more pleasant, including smooth pans and zooms. Also it will make the UI more responsive. It opens up the avenue for gaming too.

The Beagleboard has really opened up the possibilities that an embedded board can achieve, and it has a large hacker base. However in my eyes it is still very much a hacker device, and a more flexible board, with more inputs/outputs could tempt many of those guys over. And by taking advantage of the large software stack that now exists (OpenEmbedded, Gstreamer to name the big two), the learning curve for new hackers is much lower.

Like the beagleboard and OMAP3 this device will have a hardware graphics accelerator.  

Thanks,
Chase Maupin

Hi,

Will the graphics chip be open as well, so that it will be possible to develop an open source driver for the GPU?
It would definitely be preferable if this was the case, so that we do not depend on a closed-source GPU driver in an otherwise open source project.

Thank you for taking the initiative of creating open source multimedia players, by the way! It is truly wonderful to see the increasing degree of openness in hardware and software that is taking place currently.