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Title: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: Mongrello on September 15, 2006, 04:33:45 AM hi guys
I’d recently purchased a neuros recorder and I d like to mount it on my motorbike. My huge problem is how to power it through my bike battery (12v) as I did not have space on the bike to install a battery pack. On the Neuros power adapter there’s written, it works at 5V and 1500amp. I went into many electronic stores but I couldn’t find a converter to use as the only one that I found was 12v to 5V at 1000amp (the one used for ipods) I reckon I can t use it (becouse of the amp difference) and I d like to know if you guys can help me on finding something suitable. any suggestions greatly appreciated. Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: Ex-Navy on September 15, 2006, 07:15:10 AM Dongle just posted a 5V regulator for sale. He could probably make one for you.
Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: Mongrello on September 15, 2006, 09:50:28 AM it s 5v @ 1000 amp. not 1500 like it is supposed to be.
i think it wont work.... :( u can find convert to 5v @ 1000amp in any electronic shop for 10euros anyway Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: dongle on September 15, 2006, 11:34:46 PM Please see my post in this section re suitable regulator.
5V @ 1000A would be sufficient to power your whole house and your neighbours houses as well. The Neuros ac adapter has the capacity to deliver 1500mA (thats milliamps, 1mA= 0.001 Amps). Just because a supply is capable of delivering a certain current does not mean it needs to. For example my PC supply is capable of 500W but my current hardware only requires 300W. However should I add new hardware then the power consumption will increase but the supply still has the capacity to work correctly. My solution was based on the actual power consumption of the R2 and it works quite happily :) Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: dhaynes on September 21, 2006, 01:50:19 PM I'd be interested in hearing how well the device works on your bike.
I've been using a DV camcorder on my R1200GSA and KTM 950SE and on an R1150GSA before that and it's finally starting to die (after 3 years) from all the dust and grit and vibration. I do a lot of off-roading on them so it's tough environment. I was just about ready to order one of the DVRs from chasecam. They're much more expensive but they also have some very robust packaging. Is the Neuros device up to some shaking around? Any comments on reliability? Any annoyances when using them on the bike? Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: dzavelson on September 23, 2006, 10:55:19 PM I have a similar requirement. I would like to use this for video recording in a race car. I'm thinking of just powering this via an external battery pack to avoid having to introduce more variables (and potential issues) into the race car wiring. I have been reading some of the messages on this forum and also saw that the recorder can use a PSP power adapter.
So my question is would something like this work? Its a 4800mAh external battery pack for a PSP. http://www.daydeal.com/product.php?productid=10002&ovmkt=GEMQHJRJ387NHL4RFMTFHKR14O Look forward to hearing more dicussion on this topic. Thanks! Dave Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: Ex-Navy on September 24, 2006, 11:38:14 AM Hi Dave,
This unit is very interesting, actually I just bought one online. I understand that the PSP adaptor is the same as the Neuros MPEG4 recorder, so, when I get this unit I will certainly test it. Excellent price, only $19.99 and $5.35 shipping to Canada. You are right, running the R2 from "in car" 12v accessory sockets creates problems caused by alternator noise. My bullet cam really picks up the alternator noise even after putting a heavy filtering capacitor across the 12V lead. Also, the supplied Neuros cables are not shielded good enough. I have gone with double sheilded custom ones. I have been using a commercial 12volt battery as shown on Dereks site: http://www.firelikethis.com/r2battery.html The battery is very small, is housed in a very tough ABS plastic, and fits inside a cellular type belt pack. It is the same size as a credit card. The nice thing about this battery is 12vdc. All bullet cams run on 12V, just add a 5V regulator and you can power the R2 at the same time. A good weekend custom project. Dereks site is a good place to watch for. Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: dzavelson on September 24, 2006, 10:47:29 PM Thanks Ex-Navy. I will be very interested in hearing if that battery pack works out. I'm expecting an OSD to arrive tomorrow and I'm hoping to use that in my race car. I'm assuming if the battery pack works with the R2, then it should work on the OSD right?
Dave Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: mxracer95 on September 26, 2006, 06:56:38 PM Ex-Navy also posted a hard wired DC/DC converter you can buy from here: http://www.medusaproducts.com/
It's a BEC (Battery Eliminator Circuit). On my motorcycle, I've been using a 12v mini-PC regulator to power my 12v devices (like the bullet cam, radar detector, GPS) and then powering a 5v step-down regulator (industrial grade, PCB mount - overkill and a hassle to deal with the PCB leads, but it works great) and no engine/alternator noise. I haven't been able to find the regulator portion of the mini-PC power supply separately, so I had to buy the whole 12v power supply kit, but I went with this knowing that computers need clean power and I figured this 12v regulator is designed to power computers in a car and would do a good job cleaning up noise. So far, it seems to do a good job. Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: dongle on September 27, 2006, 03:03:53 AM Using a pre-made DC/DC converter form Farnell, RS etc is probably your best solution for both the 5V & 12V supplies. The 12V version will do an excelent job of cleaning up the supply and a 10W version will probably drive all your accessories. They are also very efficient and can be mounted in a small enclosure without any overheating problems.
The only problem is that they are not cheap but you do get what you pay for. I think that a UK50-60 investment is worth the money if it protects the connected equipment. Something else worth considering is a plug in power supply for use on Mini ITX motherboards. There are a few types on the market and have been produced for converting 12V external brick psu's into the various voltages needed for the motherboard. They can supply +12V, +5V & +3.3V at up to 200W total so that should keep most people happy !. Naturally a bit of work is required to hook up to something other than a motherboard but the ITX style connector is available from other suppliers and a couple of flying leads are already provided. Just remember that these units are "enabled" by the power button on a pc. You will need to replicate this link on the connector using an external switch to make it work. In the UK you can get these from : http://www.icp-epia.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=15 They should not be hard to find for other countries. Title: Re: Using neuros with motorbike battery Post by: Ex-Navy on September 27, 2006, 08:01:18 AM That's a good idea dongle. Very good. I just purchased one.
For users here in N. America, you can find a similiar unit here: http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/cPath/40_65/products_id/505 |