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Title: Can't change CF to SD?
Post by: martinp13 on October 14, 2006, 07:38:46 PM
Brand new Plus, just getting started with it.  My firmware is 2.00.0019.

In the Recorder Menu setup, I can change Resolution, Quality, etc, but I can't change the Storage value off of CF.  I can't change it whether or not there's an SD card in the machine.  Regardless of the setting, I tried to record anyway, and it just sat there looking at me. :)

Any ideas?


Title: Re: Can't change CF to SD?
Post by: hrlaser on October 17, 2006, 12:42:27 AM
Brand new Plus, just getting started with it.  My firmware is 2.00.0019.

In the Recorder Menu setup, I can change Resolution, Quality, etc, but I can't change the Storage value off of CF.  I can't change it whether or not there's an SD card in the machine.  Regardless of the setting, I tried to record anyway, and it just sat there looking at me. :)

Any ideas?

Do you have one card in the machine or two? i.e. a CF or and SD card in a CF > SD  adapter in the top slot, and an SD in the bottom slot?

When you are in recording preview mode, i.e. the source video fills the entire screen, press the display button on the remote. What icon do you see in the upper left hand corner of the screen? a CF icon or an SD icon? If you have an SD card in the SD slot and you see CF in the upper left hand corner, press the "storage" button on the lower left hand corner of the remote. You should now see an SD icon on screen in the upper left hand corner, to the right of that will be the space remaining on your card and the estimated time available to record based on your current settings (resolution and quality mode).

To change resolution and quality modes, while looking at the preview screen (full screen with the white overlay on it), press the button on the remote that looks like two little boxes. Change your settings there. Then use the remote's back button (just under  the home button) to go back to the preview screen.

If you changed resolution and quality, the numbers next to the card icon will have changed.

If the icon says SD on it, press the red record button on the remote. In a couple seconds you should see "REC" in red in the upper right hand corner of the screen andthe red LED on the Neuros will turn on.

Hit the red record button again to stop recording.

Then you can go back to the main interface, swich to playback mode, find your file and play it or erase it.

It's possible the recorder is not recognizing your SD card. When I got mine I only had a spare 128mb no-name card laying around to try it with. I had to insert and remove the card multiple times to get the Neuros to recognize it. Then I got two Dane Elec. 2gb cards from the TreoCentral store. I have one in the top slot in a CF > SD adapater, and one "naked" in the bottom slot. They work perfectly.

Also IMPORTANT!! Make sure when you put an SD card in the bottom slot you put it in UPSIDE DOWN with the Gold contacts facing up. This seems counter-intuitive but that's the way the Neuros wants you to insert an SD card. Gold contacts facing up and in.

Go to TreoCentral.com and on the front page you'll find my four thousand word review of the Neuros MPEG4 Recorder 2 Plus with lots of screen shots.

Let me know if I solved your problem. It could be your card, it could be the way you've inserted it, it could be you haven't told the Neuros to record to a card i the SD slot. I can't think of any other possibilities.

Harv


Title: Re: Can't change CF to SD?
Post by: martinp13 on October 17, 2006, 08:49:07 AM
Thanks Harv... a shame you couldn't be a bit more detailed.  :D

My icon in the upper left looks like an SD card but says MS on it.  I took it out, played with the card on the PC, and successfully added a picture to it.  I put it back in the Neuros, and I think it slid in further than ever before.   ::)  Now the icon says SD.

I quickly tried to record something but the menus are so slow and I need to get to work. :)  Thanks for your help, and I'll try more tonight.


Title: Re: Can't change CF to SD?
Post by: hrlaser on October 17, 2006, 09:08:52 AM
Thanks Harv... a shame you couldn't be a bit more detailed.  :D

My icon in the upper left looks like an SD card but says MS on it.  I took it out, played with the card on the PC, and successfully added a picture to it.  I put it back in the Neuros, and I think it slid in further than ever before.   ::)  Now the icon says SD.

I quickly tried to record something but the menus are so slow and I need to get to work. :)  Thanks for your help, and I'll try more tonight.

MS means memory stick. The recorder 2 takes CF on top and MS in the bottom slot. The recorder 2 plus takes CF on the top and SD in the bottom slot. You said you have the plus so that's odd it would say "MS" since the plus can't even take a Memory stick. {{confused look}}..

Like I said, you might have one of those cards that the recorder has trouble reading. I explained I have a 128mb card that I had to insert and remove a bunch of times before the recorder saw it. Probably a cheap brand or slightly out of spec or worn out contacts or who knows. But when I got two Dane 2gb SD cards it has never had problems recognizing either one of them and I've inserted and removed them dozens of times. One of them is in a CF > SD card adapter in the top slot (so it always shows up as "CF" which is how the Neuros behaves).. the SD card in the bottom SD slot always shows up as SD. No problem. There are just some cheap cards out there which are slightly out of spec so the Neuros doesn't recogize them properly.

Remember too, the SD cards don't go in all the way flush with the front of the recorder's case. This throws some people off. Just gently push it in until it stops and don't try to force it in further. (Not that you are, but just in case you are).. The recorder WILL tell you in its onscreen display when you've correctly inserted a card. It'll recognize it and display its directories and files in playback mode and in card to card file copying mode.

My answers tend to be verbose because I write for a living and I've always found it's more helpful to give more information than not enough to prevent an endless back and forth of asking and answering.

Harv


Title: Re: Can't change CF to SD?
Post by: hrlaser on October 17, 2006, 09:24:30 AM
Thanks Harv... a shame you couldn't be a bit more detailed.  :D

My icon in the upper left looks like an SD card but says MS on it.  I took it out, played with the card on the PC, and successfully added a picture to it.  I put it back in the Neuros, and I think it slid in further than ever before.   ::)  Now the icon says SD.

I quickly tried to record something but the menus are so slow and I need to get to work. :)  Thanks for your help, and I'll try more tonight.

MS means memory stick. The recorder 2 takes CF on top and MS in the bottom slot. The recorder 2 plus takes CF on the top and SD in the bottom slot. You said you have the plus so that's odd it would say "MS" since the plus can't even take a Memory stick. {{confused look}}..

Like I said, you might have one of those cards that the recorder has trouble reading. I explained I have a 128mb card that I had to insert and remove a bunch of times before the recorder saw it. Probably a cheap brand or slightly out of spec or worn out contacts or who knows. But when I got two Dane 2gb SD cards it has never had problems recognizing either one of them and I've inserted and removed them dozens of times. One of them is in a CF > SD card adapter in the top slot (so it always shows up as "CF" which is how the Neuros behaves).. the SD card in the bottom SD slot always shows up as SD. No problem. There are just some cheap cards out there which are slightly out of spec so the Neuros doesn't recogize them properly.

Remember too, the SD cards don't go in all the way flush with the front of the recorder's case. This throws some people off. Just gently push it in until it stops and don't try to force it in further. (Not that you are, but just in case you are).. The recorder WILL tell you in its onscreen display when you've correctly inserted a card. It'll recognize it and display its directories and files in playback mode and in card to card file copying mode.

My answers tend to be verbose because I write for a living and I've always found it's more helpful to give more information than not enough to prevent an endless back and forth of asking and answering.

By the way, the recorder's menus aren't really slow. You're just new to it and learning where things are. Use it for a couple weeks and youwon't even have to think about what's where. It IS more complicated to use than a VCR.

It sounds to me like you just didn't have your SD card inserted all the way. Since it just slides in about halfway and the recorder doesn't beep or anything to indicate correct card insertion, my guess is that that's what happened.

Harv



Title: Re: Can't change CF to SD?
Post by: martinp13 on October 18, 2006, 12:26:46 AM
Bad SD card.  I took a 16MB card (came with my new Canon SD450... I think about 2 pictures will fit on that card) and it went right in, fully recognized, was able to record off the bat, blah blah blah... no problems.  How bizarre, but I know TomTom GPS units have problems with certain makes of cards also.  The bad card is a Kingmax Platinum 1GB.

Thanks for your help.  Whew!

> Martin