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Chameleon
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Posted - 03/16/2004 : 12:41:25 PM
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Personally I don't have much hope that Xiph will implement Bitrate Peeling until Vorbis2 is available.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!' |
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bhartman24(at)comcast.net
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 12:13:33 PM
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I'm sort of new to using ogg files, but here's my experience:
I use either CDex (which seems to be popular on this board) or Audiograbber. Generally, I like CDex, for some of the reasons already mentioned here.
I've experimented with different quality settings, and find that 8 works best for me. Anything over that and I get pops and skips. Anything under that and the music starts to get fuzzy at spots, and some sounds drop off.
I've actually got a question concerning headphones: What kind of specs do people look for? I've been headphone shopping, and I've noticed that most headphones I've seen (even relatively expensive ones) don't go > 22khz. I'm thinking that if I'm recording at 44khz, that might be a waste. Does anyone have an opinion?
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 2:48:00 PM
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For those of you using garf's encoder make sure it's outputing 1.0 or later oggs:
Stolen from an outside webpage:
Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20000508 => 1.0 beta 1 or beta 2 Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20001031 => 1.0 beta 3 Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 => 1.0 beta 4 Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010615 => 1.0 rc1 Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010813 => 1.0 rc2 Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011217 => 1.0 rc3 Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011231 => 1.0 rc3 Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717 => 1.0 Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (GTune 3, beta 1) => GT3b1 Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030308 => Post 1.0CVS Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (1.0.1) => 1.0.1 Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (GTune 3, beta 2) EXPERIMENTAL => Experimental GT3b2 Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (1.0.1) => Post 1.0.1 CVS Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (GTune 3, beta 2) => GT3b2
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8thNote
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Posted - 05/02/2004 : 6:28:05 PM
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I rip MP3s with LAME at preset: standard which is VBR ~192. I found Ogg q6 to be about the same quality, but 10% smaller. So I may either rip at q6 or q7 to have better quality at the same size.
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mlweaver(at)geneva.edu
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Posted - 05/03/2004 : 09:39:08 AM
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don't confuse 44khz recording with 22khz frequency response... 44k recording means that you are taking 44k 16 bit samples per second. thats 44k samples of the entire spectrum from ~5hz to, say, 25khz. The 44khz X 16bit rate tells you the rate that was used to turn an analog wave form of any (all) audible frequencies into a digital recording.
The 22khz response range that a set of headphones reports, means that the speaker in the headphones can accurately reproduce a wave up to 22khz, without significant drop in sound level (db). it could probably produce a wave at 23khz, but it might be down by 6-12 db or more, in other words, much quieter. Most human ears can perceive up near ~20khz, most anything above that is lost anyway. Most music doesn't have significant content above 16khz, and most OGG and MP3 formats cut out most content above 14-16khz, as part of thier compression (remember, both ogg and mp3 are lossy compression methods. Data is actually cut out, as well as compressed).
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