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Chameleon
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Posted - 03/16/2004 :  12:41:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message
Personally I don't have much hope that Xiph will implement Bitrate Peeling until Vorbis2 is available.

-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

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Posted - 05/02/2004 :  12:13:33 PM  Show Profile
I'm sort of new to using ogg files, but here's my experience:

I use either CDex (which seems to be popular on this board) or Audiograbber. Generally, I like CDex, for some of the reasons already mentioned here.

I've experimented with different quality settings, and find that 8 works best for me. Anything over that and I get pops and skips. Anything under that and the music starts to get fuzzy at spots, and some sounds drop off.

I've actually got a question concerning headphones: What kind of specs do people look for? I've been headphone shopping, and I've noticed that most headphones I've seen (even relatively expensive ones) don't go > 22khz. I'm thinking that if I'm recording at 44khz, that might be a waste. Does anyone have an opinion?

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For those of you using garf's encoder make sure it's outputing 1.0 or later oggs:

Stolen from an outside webpage:

Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20000508 => 1.0 beta 1 or beta 2
Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20001031 => 1.0 beta 3
Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010225 => 1.0 beta 4
Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010615 => 1.0 rc1
Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20010813 => 1.0 rc2
Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011217 => 1.0 rc3
Xiphophorus libVorbis I 20011231 => 1.0 rc3
Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20020717 => 1.0
Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20020717 (GTune 3, beta 1) => GT3b1
Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030308 => Post 1.0CVS
Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (1.0.1) => 1.0.1
Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20030909 (GTune 3, beta 2) EXPERIMENTAL => Experimental GT3b2
Xiph.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (1.0.1) => Post 1.0.1 CVS
Xiph.Org/Sjeng.Org libVorbis I 20031230 (GTune 3, beta 2) => GT3b2



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I rip MP3s with LAME at preset: standard which is VBR ~192. I found Ogg q6 to be about the same quality, but 10% smaller. So I may either rip at q6 or q7 to have better quality at the same size.

Daniel J. Lewis

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Posted - 05/03/2004 :  09:39:08 AM  Show Profile
don't confuse 44khz recording with 22khz frequency response... 44k recording means that you are taking 44k 16 bit samples per second. thats 44k samples of the entire spectrum from ~5hz to, say, 25khz. The 44khz X 16bit rate tells you the rate that was used to turn an analog wave form of any (all) audible frequencies into a digital recording.

The 22khz response range that a set of headphones reports, means that the speaker in the headphones can accurately reproduce a wave up to 22khz, without significant drop in sound level (db). it could probably produce a wave at 23khz, but it might be down by 6-12 db or more, in other words, much quieter. Most human ears can perceive up near ~20khz, most anything above that is lost anyway. Most music doesn't have significant content above 16khz, and most OGG and MP3 formats cut out most content above 14-16khz, as part of thier compression (remember, both ogg and mp3 are lossy compression methods. Data is actually cut out, as well as compressed).

-Matt

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