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kronin
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Posted - 04/26/2004 :  11:50:44 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by awh

I can't figure out why doing "rebuild" is so slow... Positron can rebuild my Neuros in a matter of 10 minutes or so; this software was at 4% after a half hour.

- awh




From the Readme:
"The following external Perl modules are not required, but are highly
recommended:

Ogg::Vorbis
Installing this module will significantly speed up ogg vorbis parsing
and make rebuilds tolerable. Without this module, Sorune has to read the
entire ogg vorbis file in order to determine the playing time. This is
not desired at any time, but especially not during a rebuild. If you
don't have any ogg vorbis files, this module isn't necessary."

My rebuild was going slow, then I installed this module, and all is well.


Thanks Darren for your hard work. I was using NSM to get artist-album, but it messed up all my track durations. Now I have artist-album and my track lengths are correct I think I'll go back to NeurosDBM once it supports artist-album, but you have a good thing going here (and for the users that won't run Java, this is an excellent replacement, better than positron).

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K-Man666
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Posted - 04/26/2004 :  1:39:43 PM  Show Profile  Send K-Man666 an AOL message  Send K-Man666 an ICQ Message  Click to see K-Man666's MSN Messenger address  Send K-Man666 a Yahoo! Message
Could you post sorune on any other site but yahoo? My preference for mozilla makes yahoo deny my login, so I can't see anything of your application/script.
Maybe we could make a new site with all of the synchronisation apps on it(OpenNSM,NDBM,Sorune,Positron, maybe gsker's script).

Kaspar (The German Guy)

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Posted - 04/26/2004 :  9:18:53 PM  Show Profile  Visit Azraak's Homepage  Send Azraak an ICQ Message  Click to see Azraak's MSN Messenger address
quote:
Originally posted by awh
I can't figure out why doing "rebuild" is so slow... Positron can rebuild my Neuros in a matter of 10 minutes or so; this software was at 4% after a half hour.

I am not even using sorune yet so can't talk from personal experience, but if you have oggs on your player, have you installed the Ogg::Vorbis module the README mentions? (which I might add I can't find in Debian; I can only find Ogg::Vorbis::Header. Hrm... odd. Oh well, guess I'll have to go download it from CPAN.)

Jamie

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awh
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  1:18:53 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by kronin

From the Readme:
"The following external Perl modules are not required, but are highly
recommended:

Ogg::Vorbis



Oh, duh. I thought that I'd installed it, but I guess I hadn't. Of course I only found out after I rewrote the Ogg parsing routines.

Anyway, yes, back to the original Ogg parsing routines, and installing Ogg::Vorbis did the trick.

Is the author of this script accepting patch contributions? I've modified it so that it maintains separate albums for two different artists that have the same album name (like "Greatest Hits").

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sez
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  3:10:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit sez's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by K-Man666

Could you post sorune on any other site but yahoo? My preference for mozilla makes yahoo deny my login, so I can't see anything of your application/script.



After you log in, and Yahoo! sends you back to the page you were at before, hit the Reload button in Mozilla. You should then be logged in.

For some reason, Yahoo!'s cookie doesn't get read until you do a reload. This, at least, happens to me on the My Yahoo! page. Once the cookie is set, I can get anywhere in Yahoo I need to get to (including the Sorune group, from which I used Mozilla to download the software).

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K-Man666
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Doesn't work for me: yahoo says my browser doesn't accept cookies. reload won't help
reentering the page doesn't help
back and forward won't help
I simply can by no means log in.


Kaspar (The German Guy)

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kronin
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  3:56:43 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by K-Man666

Doesn't work for me: yahoo says my browser doesn't accept cookies. reload won't help
reentering the page doesn't help
back and forward won't help
I simply can by no means log in.


Kaspar (The German Guy)



Do you have cookies disabled? What version of Mozilla are you using?

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K-Man666
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  4:03:28 PM  Show Profile  Send K-Man666 an AOL message  Send K-Man666 an ICQ Message  Click to see K-Man666's MSN Messenger address  Send K-Man666 a Yahoo! Message
I was using 1.4.
The strange thing is, that everything is ok with firefox.
And,yes, all cookies were enabled.

Kaspar (The German Guy)

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Chameleon
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  4:38:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by K-Man666

I was using 1.4.
The strange thing is, that everything is ok with firefox.

FireFox is better anyway.


-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

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darren
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Posted - 04/27/2004 :  7:06:05 PM  Show Profile
Finally! I know exactly how you felt Kaspar. I've been unable to login to these forums for the past 24hrs. I even got desperate and tried IE. No joy there either (typical I suppose). I'm glad you got to login eventually. I use Firefox as my main browser as well.

Thanks for the kind words Kronin. I hope you will let me know what you like/dislike about Sorune.

AWH, yes I'll take patches/comments/criticisms/whatever. Just submit them to my sorune yahoo address.

I hope Sorune isn't too confusing for anyone. It is a little different. Some kind of help/instructions is on my list of todo items. I'm surprised nobody has asked how to go back in the audio browser. Just in case you haven't gotten that far yet, use the right mouse button.

As for the cumulative website idea, that would be fine with me. Redistribution is allowed under the GPL.

Update: Forgot to mention that if anyone knows a pure perl method of getting the playing time from an ogg vorbis file w/o reading the entire file I'd like to hear about it. That would eliminate the multiple way of parsing ogg files in Sorune.

Edited by - darren on 04/27/2004 7:22:47 PM

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i found Ogg::Vorbis::Header::PurePerl using ppm on Windows the other day... maybe that does it ? (or maybe it still does it reading the whole file, not sure...)

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darren
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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  08:37:22 AM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by NC-17

i found Ogg::Vorbis::Header::PurePerl using ppm on Windows the other day... maybe that does it ? (or maybe it still does it reading the whole file, not sure...)


That's what I'm using as the default ogg parser. It reads the entire file. Let me know if you find anything else. Thanks!

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awh
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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  12:36:27 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by darren
Update: Forgot to mention that if anyone knows a pure perl method of getting the playing time from an ogg vorbis file w/o reading the entire file I'd like to hear about it. That would eliminate the multiple way of parsing ogg files in Sorune.



Theoretically it should be possible, looking at the C source code for libvorbis.

If nobody else is working on this I can give it a crack tonight.

- awh

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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  1:44:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit noiz's Homepage  Send noiz an AOL message  Send noiz a Yahoo! Message
im wondering darren if there is a way to select all of the songs on an album or by an artist. i tried your program and i think it is okay but the one thing i didnt like was after i rebuilt the database it didnt keep my old playlists and i would have to select the songs one by one to add them to a playlist. so is there a way i can do this and if i cant are you going to hopefully have that implemented soon?

-noiz

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darren
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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  6:38:28 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by awh

If nobody else is working on this I can give it a crack tonight.




That would be fantastic. Thanks!

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darren
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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  6:46:08 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by noiz

im wondering darren if there is a way to select all of the songs on an album or by an artist. i tried your program and i think it is okay but the one thing i didnt like was after i rebuilt the database it didnt keep my old playlists and i would have to select the songs one by one to add them to a playlist. so is there a way i can do this and if i cant are you going to hopefully have that implemented soon?



Yes, this can be done. Select the Artists that you want to include in the playlist by single clicking on their names in the audio browser (right side). Then click the "Create/Add to Playlist" button. Enter a name for the playlist and click ok. If you want to add to that playlist later with a different selection of albums, just use the same playlist name.

I think I'll have Sorune remember the last playlist name entered so you don't have to retype it in these circumstances.

-Darren

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saliola
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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  7:15:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit saliola's Homepage  Click to see saliola's MSN Messenger address
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I think I'll have Sorune remember the last playlist name entered so you don't have to retype it in these circumstances.



Sorune should have an option "turn albums into playlists".

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darren
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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  7:55:42 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by saliola
Sorune should have an option "turn albums into playlists".



I'm not sure what you mean. You can select multiple albums and then hit create/add to playlist.

I just found a bug with the new album under artist feature in the sorune audio browser. If you select an album from the albums->artists->artist name->album name menu you will get all albums added to the playlist. The workaround is to select the album(s) from the albums->All->album name menu. This will be fixed in the upcoming version.

Update: This doesn't affect the Neuros operation of album under artist. Only Sorune's Create/Add to Playlist and Play operations.

Edited by - darren on 04/29/2004 8:00:40 PM

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gsker
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Posted - 04/29/2004 :  9:05:09 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by darren
Update: Forgot to mention that if anyone knows a pure perl method of getting the playing time from an ogg vorbis file w/o reading the entire file I'd like to hear about it. That would eliminate the multiple way of parsing ogg files in Sorune.



in ogg2mdb I use
my $ogg = Ogg::Vorbis::Header->new("$songfile");
$song{$songfile}{"length"} = int($ogg->info("length")+.5);

HTH

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darren
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Posted - 05/02/2004 :  7:07:01 PM  Show Profile
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Originally posted by gsker
in ogg2mdb I use
my $ogg = Ogg::Vorbis::Header->new("$songfile");
$song{$songfile}{"length"} = int($ogg->info("length")+.5);



Finally got a chance to look at this module. Looks like it uses the libvorbis library. Thanks for the info though. There seems to be a lot of vorbis parsing modules but none that are quite perfect for all OS's. Hopefully AWH will be able to remedy that soon.

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