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liebowij
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 Posted - 03/21/2004 : 1:10:50 PM
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Yeah, I get this error... Application (null) is not a valid win32 executable whenever I try to run NSM. The trick I have to pull is... I delete the nsm executable, run the upgrade package, do a repair, and I can run the program after. The problem is that when I close it, and try to reopen it, I get the same error. This has been happening since 1.3 something, and now I am up to the most recent stable upgrade. I have scanned for viruses, and nothing. This is the only app on the system that has this issue. Suggestions? It may take a while to respond as I am in Mexico and sometimes I cant get access to the internet, but I will try! Thanks!
-Josh |
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Cool4u2view
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liebowij
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 4:48:46 PM
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Originally posted by Cool4u2view
What version of windows are you using? To me it looks like you are having a problem with Windows Installer.
http://search.microsoft.com/search/results.aspx?st=b&na;=88&View;=en-us&qu;=windows+installer
go to the above address and download and install the windows installer 2.0 redistributable for your operating system. Should you be using Windows XP... don't install the above.
-Jeff
I will see if I can find an updated version for XP. God I wish my linux drive didnt crash on me. Any suggestions on how to repair a PAM failure, with very limited internet bandwidth? (wont let me login, but displays a login prompt, and eventually says it respawned to fast disabling for 5 min.)
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Cool4u2view
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webkid
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 5:31:58 PM
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Grr, I wish people would stop publishing that method of entry. Or, at least, they wouldn't make it so obvious as "Ever wonder how people break into Linux terminals?"
Sorry, that was off-topic.
Now for some on-topic gripes:
I'm a big fan of single-executable non-install applications for this very reason. You never know if the installer program is going to throw up on your data files or what.
I much prefer to have a .exe that spawns some data files or whatnot in a known directory (the location of which could be stored in HKCU). Why do simple applications have to "implant" themselves into a system? Statically linked libraries run faster anyway. |
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Sean Starkey
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 5:44:31 PM
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Originally posted by webkid
I'm a big fan of single-executable non-install applications for this very reason. You never know if the installer program is going to throw up on your data files or what.
You want to put all those "disk clean" utilities out of business. You're mean.
Sean Starkey - Project Manager for Neuros Database Manipulator - http://neurosdbm.sourceforge.net |
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liebowij
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Chameleon
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 5:58:56 PM
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Originally posted by webkid
Grr, I wish people would stop publishing that method of entry. Or, at least, they wouldn't make it so obvious as "Ever wonder how people break into Linux terminals?"
Which, single user mode?
Once physical access is gained, all bets are off.
Oh, and security through obscurity is not security at all...
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Originally posted by webkid
I'm a big fan of single-executable non-install applications for this very reason. You never know if the installer program is going to throw up on your data files or what.
I much prefer to have a .exe that spawns some data files or whatnot in a known directory (the location of which could be stored in HKCU). Why do simple applications have to "implant" themselves into a system? Statically linked libraries run faster anyway.
I agree.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!' |
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 6:58:19 PM
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I agree, with physical access you can pretty much break into anything out there in a matter of seconds (ok well probably 99% of the time because I can already think of a few exceptions.)
-Jeff |
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webkid
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 8:09:35 PM
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Agreed, security through obscurity is not secure at all. However, that only applies to someone willing to research the issue, as opposed to a 14-year-old student bent on making a school technician's life difficult who runs across it on some forums. 
Being that same child at one point myself, I accidentally ran across a way to render my entire schools network extremely slow, because of defect in their security software. (It involved setting up 6 or 7 machines into an infinite login loop over 10base-T) It's just to tempting not to try, and the more places it shows up, the more people will curse Linux and say "Well, at least this didn't happen with Windows." |
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 03/22/2004 : 10:35:38 PM
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I was the same myself when I was younger, so my school district ended up hiring me while in high school as a technician. For the first time I was able to work on the other side of the wire against kids like myself (it was a lot of fun). With remote software and network tools in hand each malicious teen was greeted by a kind message “Eat my ping-of-death script kiddies” followed by a prompt reboot or hang of the system or simply “stop that <student’s name>” depending on if they were in an elementary or middle school vs. high school. It really scares kids when they find out that Big Brother is watching. (obligatory “Muahahaha” )
Those were the days…
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kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
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Posted - 03/24/2004 : 09:54:05 AM
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Josh,
Are you running NSM now, successfully? We can take this offline and do more traditional troubleshooting, it might not be as complicated as it seems.
You may just want to uninstall NSM and start fresh. Make sure you are installing the base installation with the .net framework. Then upgrade.
Let's go from there, because there shouldn't be a lot of XP installation issues, we always get it to work out.
Kathryn
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liebowij
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Posted - 03/24/2004 : 4:08:03 PM
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| Ok, I will uninstall and reinstall it. I wish the internet cafe would just let me plug in here. |
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liebowij
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 1:00:45 PM
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| Ok, soo back in the USA, and I have time to try this again. I uninstalled NSM, reinstalled it, upgraded to the most current, and I still get the same error. It works until I restart the computer. I uninstalled it again, uninstalled the .Net framework. I than reinstalled just version 1.1, and than NSM, upgraded, and same issue. Any other ideas? |
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 06/24/2004 : 9:54:17 PM
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I haven't forgot about you.
When you said the latest version did you mean 1.50 beta (off the beta updates page)?
-Jeff |
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liebowij
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Posted - 06/25/2004 : 2:09:57 PM
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| at the time, it was 1.48, but I just installed 1.50 and I haven't had a chance to reboot my machine yet, but with every upgrade it has done the same. off topic.... how do you run a http daemon with a domain when you have a dynamic ip? |
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webkid
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Posted - 06/25/2004 : 2:12:03 PM
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Originally posted by liebowij(at)hotmail.com
off topic.... how do you run a http daemon with a domain when you have a dynamic ip?
http://www.no-ip.com/ |
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 06/25/2004 : 9:44:28 PM
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Another way to do it is by using two scripts as seen in the current edition of 2600 magazine.
-Jeff |
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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 12:59:13 AM
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| Jeff reads 2600! Be afraid. Be very afraid. |
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liebowij
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 3:35:31 PM
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| ok, so rebooting still causes this error to occur, what is going on here? I am just thinking that my Winxp installation has hit the fan on me. I guess I can continue to erase the NSM.exe file, and repair the installation with an upgrade every time I want to modify my neuros. GRR.. |
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 06/27/2004 : 4:48:07 PM
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You don't have any weird antivirus programs running do you? I suppose you don't have any virii that would overwrite a section of the executable either... but you could really only know by having antivirus software.
Upon recreation of the exe if you make a copy (don't run it) and rename it to say backup.nsm restart windows and if you get the same error try deleting nsm.exe and rename or copy and rename your backup.nsm to nsm.exe and try to run it. If it runs then somehow you executable is getting corrupted.
-Jeff |
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