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ClusterOne
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 Posted - 01/19/2005 : 9:05:32 PM
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attempts to duplicate the idea behind the wheel without ripping it off have been pretty dismal. The scrollwheel on the dellpod is pretty weak and that....that THING on the nomad is heresy. I may be imagining this, but it seems like holding down the joystick works alot better/smoother in the Garbage firmware. For most of my ownership I've relied on pressing FF and RWD to hop from letter to letter, but in the last couple days since I've changed over to the Garbage FW I've been flying through the menus with the stick more often. The more you practice it the more precise you can get with it. The fact of the matter is, that damn clickwheel isn't all that precise either on a huge list. You're always flying by what you want, flying back up to maybe one or two above, and then back down. I've had at least as good results with the stick.
Anyway, that's my $.02
here I is. |
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Zithromax
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Posted - 04/14/2005 : 04:48:53 AM
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| Hey, Joe, how about those images you promised a few months back? I would like to look at them and tell you which is best. Also, if anyone else has been cranking on some designs, I'd like to see those too. I haven't been impressed by anything I've seen so far. All of the ideas look like rehashes of the current Neuros design. For shame... I think what we need to go for is something that improves usability. |
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Rejk
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Posted - 04/17/2005 : 3:47:19 PM
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First, i'm wondering what at least one person meant by:
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This time around, they better use a standard USB connector.
It sure seems standard enough for me, its the exact came cable that my Cannon camera uses, i just assumed it was USB's responce to Firewire's mini connector that digital video cameras have...
The pictures are not bad, but I would want neuros to be immediatally distinguable from any other mp3 players out there, so about if you see it across the room you can say 'THAT is a neuros 3 and i know it'
most screens on mp3 players are 3x4 or about, so i'd say make it longer vertically, and as big as possible, so that when you actually do have near 20 gigs on a player (which i doubt 80% of ipod users have) you can see quite a few lines at a time.
one feature that would be incredible would be the ability to have a small cable with a female regular USB A plug on it, and then be able to plug the other end into the neuros 3, and if you put a pen drive into the cable you could transfer things off of it.
I really like the ability of having the removable harddrive, personally i'd really perfer them keeping that feature.
as for pins, there are TONS of ways to protect them very easily.
Like my video card has a cable for inputs and outputs which has tons of pins, and a platic piece that slides up when it is unplugged. Or make like a cupler for the pins, inside of the case of the harddrive unit, so that its female instead of pins, then the only risk would be getting some sort of crap inside of the holes. Or some sort of flap that gets pushed up.
in this I'm mostly thinking it would be a dumb harddrive unit, so just a tight case for the harddrive, that plugs into the unit basically how a harddrive plugs into any computer, or modifies it slightly so that it can only be used in the neuros.
It would also be great if they could find a way to cheaply produce a metal case, i've always liked brushed aluminum finish hah.
As for the battery, as long as its realivily simple to replace, then the charge for it won't be much, if you have not checked the price of cellphone batteries, i don't think that cost is worth just being able to manually change the battery. The cost is obviously due to the fact that they are mostly custom manufactured for each phone model.
but anyways, there are my ideas. |
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kbon
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Posted - 04/17/2005 : 4:03:41 PM
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The USB connector on the brain is a standard plug, the one on the USB2 HD isn't, unfortunately.
I disagree with you about keeping the hard disk removable.
But that's just because I don't use the feature I guess.
Anyway, I came up with a nifty idea: just make a regular player with built-in HD. On the bottom of the unit, put a slot covered by some "doors" to protect it. Ideally, this socket is a regular USB2 connection (on the go, ofcourse), in some kind of socket form instead of regular connector type.
That way, you could hook up another HD to the unit, transfer items with a nice menu,... With a couple special slots in the main unit, where the "extra device" can attach (click) itself into.
It's great for expansion, think about the possibilities: want a card reader? extra batterypack perhaps? want a docking station? want whatever-handy-dandy-device-you-want? add a blender and a microwave oven, whatever you like...
Such a thing wouldn't require a lot of extra work, the hardest thing will be to find a suitable place for the slot I guess. |
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artur83
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Posted - 04/23/2005 : 10:53:34 PM
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Well here's the N3 pic... or at least my version of it.
This is purely out of my head. my vision of the unit, since no one seems to have any pics yet.
The extra wide screen is to read ebooks, and possibly be touch screen.
which would be really cool since with an open 'PDA-like' GUI it would be a very cool product to organize not only tunes, but also personal data, files and perhaps even display pics with the 4 (or maybe 16) shades of grey.
http://www.fierte.ca/n3.jpg
The joystick is at the lower left like the PSP because a person would be holding it horizontaly.
just having a bit of fun. |
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Don
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Posted - 04/24/2005 : 06:57:06 AM
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Originally posted by Rejk
one feature that would be incredible would be the ability to have a small cable with a female regular USB A plug on it, and then be able to plug the other end into the neuros 3, and if you put a pen drive into the cable you could transfer things off of it.
That would have to be a separate socket on the Neuros with more hardware. A USB device has to be either a host or client (generally the PC is the host and all else are clients). To transfer files between 2 clients (ie camera and Neuros) you need an adapter with electronics in it that will appear to be a host to both sides and will somehow determine what files get copied where.
THere are such things on the market, and the capability could be built into a player. In the absence of keyboard or mouse, I think they typically just copy all files on device A into a predetermined folder (ie "moved files") on device B, and maybe delete the files from A.
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I really like the ability of having the removable harddrive, personally i'd really perfer them keeping that feature.
as for pins, there are TONS of ways to protect them very easily.
The backpack concept along with the 2.5 inch HD are the 2 big reasons the Neuros is in the brick class instead of the Ipod/Iriver size class. If they are trying to address size, they would not want to skip that shrink opportunity.
Aside from protecting pins from debris etc, I think the connector they have now is not really suitable for frequent connect/disconnect. Isn't it an IDE connector which on a laptop would typically be reconnected zero or once in the lifetime of the unit? Given the history, I would not want to give a determined user any extra method of breaking the player.
Hopefully there is some feedback between service calls on current models and design for the III so they can address hotspots.
My guess is the "top 3" list of hardware problems would be power and headphone jacks (detached solder tab) and backpack connector (non connecting pins)
-Don |
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Chameleon
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Posted - 04/26/2005 : 4:50:50 PM
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Originally posted by Rejk
one feature that would be incredible would be the ability to have a small cable with a female regular USB A plug on it, and then be able to plug the other end into the neuros 3, and if you put a pen drive into the cable you could transfer things off of it.
That would have to be a separate socket on the Neuros with more hardware. A USB device has to be either a host or client (generally the PC is the host and all else are clients). To transfer files between 2 clients (ie camera and Neuros) you need an adapter with electronics in it that will appear to be a host to both sides and will somehow determine what files get copied where.
Lookup the USB On-The-Go (OTG) standard.
USB2 OTG is, or will be, available very soon.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!' |
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guttrhead(at)gmail.com
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Posted - 04/27/2005 : 07:40:36 AM
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| it is out now, several pdas have it |
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Zithromax
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