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goldylamont(at)yahoo.com
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Posted - 05/01/2005 :  9:27:20 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I cracked the screen on my Neuros and am considering buying another brain but i'm also considering buying another mp3 player altogether. I've had the Neuros now for a couple of years and it has been great--but when i bought it there was no competition since it was the ONLY player on the market that recorded both via an internal mic and line in.

Now things have changed. I'm looking at the iRiver H320 and it's looking like a better player than the Neuros...especially for what i mainly use it for--recording.

I wanted to see what peoples opinions were about this since i do like the Neuros--does anyone have any words to convince me to buy a newer Neuros rather than an H340?

Here's some of my thinking for and against the Neuros:
Size: the iriver is a lot less bulky
Compatibility: the iriver can be used with Mac OSX
User Interface: again, iriver seems like a much better user interface-a large COLOR screen and a browser to view all files (music or not) in the system. Plus the layout of the buttons are much more intuitive.
Recording (most important to me): more precise mic volume adjustments-and more obvious and easy to use interface--i don't know how may times i recorded an amazing rehearsal with my band only to find out that the recording is distorted and useless because the mic volume was accidently set to +20db--nerds will blame me for user error which admittedly is part of issue but the mic volume is too damn small to see in a dark studio--plus, even at it's lowest sensitivity setting the mic distorts (we play loud). yeah i could do an external mic to control volume but this is inconvenient when i just want to record us in the middle of a jam.

Radio Broadcasting: well the Neuros has it and iRiver doesn't so that's at least one point for Neuros...but i never use broadcasting because i can't hear anything but static in my car so this isn't really a big deal for me to not have.


so, what do you guys think? I still love Neuros but i dunno...iRiver is looking like a sweeter deal at this point. Am i wrong?

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Posted - 05/02/2005 :  3:45:46 PM  Show Profile  Send pedersdd (Derek) an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The iRiver sounds like a good recording device...what is the price difference? Does the color screen increase the price?

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Posted - 05/02/2005 :  5:13:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
the iRiver H340 (40Gig) is $399
the iRiver H320 (20Gig) is $299

Neuros 40Gig, $299 or $399 w/Bundle
Neuros 20Gig, $249 or $329 w/Bundle

Without the bundle, the Neuros is cheaper--buuuuut the iRiver has the 20/40Gig drive capacity and is smaller than the 256mb Neuros backpack...so, i think that the price of the iRiver should be compared to the bundle prices since it gives you all the benefits of the bundle but is just simpler because the unit itself is small enough to not warrant backpack swapping.

So, comparing the iRiver to the bundle prices makes it the same price for the 40Gig model....and $30 cheaper for the 20Gig model.

anybody else have any opinions?

thanks,
k

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Posted - 05/03/2005 :  6:31:00 PM  Show Profile  Send pedersdd (Derek) an AOL message  Reply with Quote
The i-river is a fairly well known product, you should see if you can go to a best buy or similar store to try out the i-river to see if you like it. Test out some of the features like recording quality, options, distortion and so on.

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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  6:12:43 PM  Show Profile  Visit s e m i r r a h g e's Homepage  Send s e m i r r a h g e an AOL message  Send s e m i r r a h g e an ICQ Message  Click to see s e m i r r a h g e's MSN Messenger address  Send s e m i r r a h g e a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
I can't tell if you are interested in sound quality or not, but the deciding factor for my recordings was the fact that the Neuros supports WAV. 16 bit, Stereo, 48kHz uncompressed WAV is fantastic and a must for mastering grade recordings. I can't tell what recording formats the H320 supports, but nowhere do I see WAV as a supported format.

Another biggie to me is the output power. The Neuros supplies 30mW per channel, while the H320 can only do 20mW. That's quite a difference, especially if you use super-high impediance studio headphones like my Sony MDR-CD780's.

Also, not that under the "PC Interface" section of the spec sheet, the H320 is said to have USB 2.0 (data)/ 1.1 (media). I'd be a bit concerned about why the different interfaces are listed.

Hope this helps.



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Posted - 05/04/2005 :  9:49:25 PM  Show Profile  Send Yono an AOL message  Send Yono an ICQ Message  Click to see Yono's MSN Messenger address  Send Yono a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Don't buy the bundle unless you plan to go jogging or do physical activities. It isn't worth it if you want to use it primarily for music listening and recording.

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