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marvinspu36
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Posted - 07/07/2004 :  7:13:37 PM  Show Profile
Has anyone compared the Sennheiser PX-200's to the PX-100's? I have listened to the PX-100's and felt the bass was a little too mushy and overpowered the midrange. I am thinking about buying the PX-200's but can't find any locally that I can listen to. I like the size and the way the PX series collapse for storage. If the PX-200's have a little crisper bass and a better balance between bass-mid-high, I will probably buy them. I don't like real heavy bass, but defineatly want to be able to hear the bass and want it to be crisp.

I have listened to the Shure E2's and like the way they sound in general, but am not too fond of the in-the-ear headphones. A little too much isolation from the outside world and, at least for my ears, not too comfortable (I have tried all the various sizes and types of buds provided with the headphones).




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atomicated
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Posted - 07/15/2004 :  11:11:09 AM  Show Profile  Send atomicated an AOL message
I use Grado SR-60's for now. I plan on saving up a bit of money to get a headphone amp and then a better set of headphones.

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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 07/15/2004 :  2:07:35 PM  Show Profile
marvinspu36, go over to http://www.head-fi.com/ and ask that question in the "Headphones" forum there. You'll get answers.

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neuropsych
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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  12:23:57 PM  Show Profile  Visit neuropsych's Homepage
i've been pretty happy with Koss the Plug. however, it definitely pays to go to walgreen's or somewhere and get replacement foam inserts. there are some real soft blue ones that are extremely fine textured and expand slowly enough that you can get them in quite deep. I replaced the tube that comes off the Plug with some I made from electrical shrink tubing. if you flatten out the foam thingie along its core axis, you can punch a hole through it with a leather punch and then thread the shrink wrap tube over that. The foam things that come with the Plug are pretty useless. When i am up and about i use the Plug. when i am sitting around in an office or at home, i instead use a better-quality sealed can like Sennheiser hd 280 pro or AKG 271 s. i always use a portable headphone amp with cross feed. got two, one from Xy computing and one from headroom. the former is more portable.
I just have to say the ear buds that came with the Neuros itself are really terrible. They look like they should be great, but they have a very hollow board like sound. even the Sennheiser mx500, my second portable choice after Plug, is FAR superior.

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neuropsych
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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  12:33:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit neuropsych's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Cool4u2view

That site first influenced my decision on buying headphones. Because of that site, I bought a pair of Sennheiser HD 497 headphones (under $70). In my opinion they sound better than the Bose Triport headphones for $150. They also have much more bass then my pair of sony headphones. I have yet to try the Shure headphones available from the Neurosaudio.com web site.

-Jeff

where are the shure headphones? i hope those orange things aren't shure. my experience with them has been terrible. maybe there is something wrong with mine???

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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  4:16:10 PM  Show Profile  Send webkid an AOL message
You have to purchase the Shures explicitly. They're around $99 for the "economy" variety.

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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  4:22:45 PM  Show Profile
Like every headphone that comes with a new device, the ones included are usually cheap. The Neuros was no exception.

Go over to headphone.com or head-fi.com and there are a wealth of better choices, and people who'll be happy to help you make them.

"The Plug" are also pretty awful, but they are in-ear canalphones for cheap. The Shure's mentioned here are canalphones like that but are $100 or so instead of $20, and are more than five times better.

Careful, though, or you can spend a lot of money trying to find headphone nirvana. (My canalphones cost more than my Neuros... I can hardly believe I bought them... but they're >wonderful<... *happy sigh*)


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marvinspu36
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Posted - 07/28/2004 :  8:06:29 PM  Show Profile
I finally bought the Sennheiser PX200's. I listened to the PX100's at Goodbuys, but was not too impressed. Too much bass. Too mushy sounding. The midrange was not well defined either.

After a brief email to "elliot", who commented on them favorably in this thread, I decided to take my chances on the PX200's. I got them for $53 from Best Buy with free shipping. I love the headphones. While not quite as impressive canal phones, they are definitely worth the price I paid for them. Good deep well-damped bass (kick drums and bass peddles sound very nice), good clarity in the midrange (reasonably warm), and fairly crisp highs (although lacking little here). For me, they are a little weak in the high end and a little too strong in the midrange, but nothing I couldn't adjust with some minor tweaking of the Neuros EQ.

Overall, I am very pleased with them. They collapse to a nice size for carrying in my brief case, and have a nice carrying case. They do put a little too much pressure on my ears, but I am getting used to that.

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Posted - 08/31/2004 :  1:52:44 PM  Show Profile  Send Zap! an AOL message
Ok, I'm getting a nice scholarship here soon and decided I needed to treat myself to something very nice. My choice: A pair of ER-6 headphones. I haven't ordered them yet, but I thought that I'd ask around here about them. Anyone else use them with their Neuros? Comments?

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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 08/31/2004 :  6:02:30 PM  Show Profile
Lots of folks like them. They're comparable to the Shures. I have their big brother, the ER-4's. The Neuros will drive the ER-6 very nicely, I am sure.

I adore the canalphones when I can wear them. They are, sometimes, too much of a good thing, and I wind up missing phone calls or being startled quite badly when someone tries to get my attention.

My roommates have taken to IMing me while I play video games, so they can get my attention. That, or bouncing a Nerf ball off my screen. =)

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Posted - 08/31/2004 :  10:20:20 PM  Show Profile  Send Zap! an AOL message
I'll have to see what this nice little storm that the Atlantic Ocean is so kind to give us Floridians does here soon. Don't want to lose them in the mail...

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MICHman
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Posted - 09/01/2004 :  8:05:53 PM  Show Profile
Hey Lou, I was just about to order the ER-4P's when I came across your post.Are you using the -4S's or -4P's?I thought i would have to use an amp to drive the -4S's with the Neuros,thats why I was going with the -4P's.Please let me know, if you see this post.I'd really rather have the -4S's right now but cant afford the portable amp yet.Thanks


John

Edited by - MICHman on 09/01/2004 8:07:11 PM

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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 09/03/2004 :  12:31:55 PM  Show Profile
The Neuros drives the 4S just fine. You don't need an amp with it.

I got the 4P with the S converter cable, so I've tried both.

I've also tried with a Total Airhead amp, and could not tell a significant difference.

The amps are designed to help weakly powered devices like modern CD players. The Neuros did not skimp on power to the headset jack. It's swell.

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I use the Airhead amp for the audio image processor (which makes a big difference to my ears.) But you are right that the Neuros has a lot of driving power.


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MICHman
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Posted - 09/05/2004 :  3:36:48 PM  Show Profile
Thanks guys!I'll order the -4S this week.

John

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JumboJim
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Posted - 09/05/2004 :  9:54:53 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by mdt123

Koss PortaPro. They look funky and sound fantastic!

- mdt




I tried the a few of the sealed headphones but my ears must be larger than normal. They don't fit under the seal rings.

I bought the Koss PortaPro2s last night. I like 'em! Light and clear. No major pressure points. And not a bad price either ($40).

They look funky but I see why they are desinged they way they are. They curve around the upper part of the ear as not to irritate and stay close to the head.

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alan(at)at-sea.com
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Posted - 09/06/2004 :  12:10:08 AM  Show Profile
I'm using Sensaphonics Prophonic IV canalphones ($449) with Xin Technologies SuperDual portable amp ($179). The Sensaphonics are manufactured by Etymotic but to Sensaphonics spec... they are very similar to the ER4P, but have a completely different sound which more closely resembles live monitoring... slightly rolled off high end, better integrated mid and deeper warmer bass. I also use Sony CD3000's when at home, again through the SuperDual. The SuperDual is great because it has a fantastic and very natural sounding bass boost switch, and I always found the Neuros EQ to be a bit disappointing.

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Posted - 09/22/2004 :  7:55:24 PM  Show Profile  Visit theFuzzyWarble's Homepage
My last pair of sony buds served me well, for a year or so..
but they're not comfy anymore. The earpiece has come off a few times and never sits right anymore.
So I just upgraded to the Sony MDR-EX71SL as a cheap alternative before I decide on the Shure or Ety's.

These EX71SL's are damn nice. They finally solved the tangling problem i've had forever and they come with 3 sets of silicon plugs, small-med-and large!
They're my first canal/closed buds so, it took awhile to get used to hearing myself breathe hehe, but once i've got some tracks playing, i total forget about it. The sound is a little bass heavy in places, but thankfully a quick EQ tweak and it's all good.

On my bus commute to and from work, they are wonderous!@ All the yapping around me cuts out!@ They only thing I feel is the beat, the engine shifting gears ehhe.
Again these are very nice and they should be for $45US.
My only complaint is that in heavy rain or if your exercising with them, they tend to slip out easily... So I stopped working out.
They're not perfect but they're a very nice placeholder till Santa comes =)
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LINK :: http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/eCS/Store/en/-/USD/SY_DisplayProductInformation-Start?ProductSKU=MDREX71SL&Dept;=acc_Headphones&CategoryName;=acc_Headphones_Fontopia.%2FEarbud

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Posted - 11/09/2004 :  06:36:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit bigbill25's Homepage
Etymotic ER-6

I do a lot of traveling and wanted them for the airplane. These are far superior to the "noise canceling" Sonys (a friend let me borrow for one trip)...

--Bill

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