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Hey folks, it took alot of ingenuity, but we designed and completed
a PIC microcontroller circuit to replace the NR2 remote and provide
an Auto record function.
Bazamataz (user nic) designed and printed the PIC circuit in England.

What this means:

We have built a prototype box where the PIC circuit LED is in front of the receiving IR demodulator.

With the flick of a switch, the NR2 powers up, goes to its splash
screen, to the menu, then to auto record.

If video is present at the time of switching on, the NR2 goes directly to record mode.

Switching off the switch powers the NR2 off. Switching it on again,
it goes directly to auto recording without the Auto record feature
enabled. (in the NR2 menu)

The whole cct runs off of 12Vdc. Included is an onboard 5 volt regulator to power the NR2. The NR2 power cable is with our cct.

Just plug in 12VDC to the box, power it up and the NR2 records.

Replacing the switch with a motion sensor makes any NR2 a security
recording device.

A color bullet camera can easily be added. We are looking at providing the box with a video connector and camera power all in one
source.

A movie, using the NR2 as the source, is available on our site at
www.olson-engineering.com under products. Bazamataz kindly provided
this little movie as a demo only. The box used in the movie is not
the final one. Just a prototype to show its use.

A full system, complete with a helmet cam (bullet cam) will be
tested in the next few days. The test vehicle will be a Kawasaki
Ninja, travelling at about 200 km/hr.

We thank Johan at Neuros for his support in helping us with this
project. The guys at Neuros rock!

Ex-Navy

hehe ex-navy, sounds like we both took the same paths in trying to eliminate the remote. After our last series of discussions on the remote protocol, I was able to take the ATMEGA8535 Avr micro, and emulate the IR protocol using the Holtek encoder datasheet as a guide. I have not finished the entire system yet, but I just used the STK500 development board to test out the different remote signals. Next is to do include my PIR circuit and battery control to do a standalone video recorder similar to what you mentioned. My only complaint is that I wish the recorder would power up and start recording a bit faster. Right now, it takes about 4 seconds from power up to recording. Sure would be nice if Neuros had a way to speed this up. This is especially important when using it as a surveillance recorder as I plan on doing. Anyway, nice work you have done, a lot of people will be interested in that easy setup you have!

Thanks Clay,
The folks at Neuros do an incredible job to make us all happy with
our little annoyances, problems, etc.
They are very good at what they do. Look at the competition, not an
opensource word from them.
I think this open source forum is brilliant! I have been in
engineering technology for over 20 years and am glad to be a part of
this.
Any help that I can do for you, please ask!

A cool product, cool users, who all want to have fun with multimedia.

quote:
Originally posted by claydubois(at)bellsouth.net

hehe ex-navy, sounds like we both took the same paths in trying to eliminate the remote. After our last series of discussions on the remote protocol, I was able to take the ATMEGA8535 Avr micro, and emulate the IR protocol using the Holtek encoder datasheet as a guide. I have not finished the entire system yet, but I just used the STK500 development board to test out the different remote signals. Next is to do include my PIR circuit and battery control to do a standalone video recorder similar to what you mentioned. My only complaint is that I wish the recorder would power up and start recording a bit faster. Right now, it takes about 4 seconds from power up to recording. Sure would be nice if Neuros had a way to speed this up. This is especially important when using it as a surveillance recorder as I plan on doing. Anyway, nice work you have done, a lot of people will be interested in that easy setup you have!

Ex-Navy

I've been trying to figure out how to use the unit with my kart racing. Can I be another tester? lol. (Really that serious) I've used a little device with an LCD in the past, but have been trying to figure out how to use the Neuros unit AND make it simple as I'm usually sitting on the grid when I want to start recording.

old device...
http://www.youtube.com/user/eyeteeth

The video looks much better, you tube messed it up.

I will anxiously be waiting for information on this.

I sent an e-mail off the contact page from your website. I'm located in southwest Michigan.

eyeteeth at comcast dot net

in case you can't find my other e-mail... which was sent from my work account.

I like the other unit... video quality is decent... fairly easy to use... and it has a little built in LCD screen, but it records to .asf and it's a real pain in the but to do anything with the files after they are recorded. Especially being mostly a Mac guy.

Thanks, and please keep me informed. How big is the box? Size is important... thanks.

Thanks eyeteeth,
Your input is important to us.
The box will only be slightly larger then the NR2. Very compact.

The first couple units we may ask for ppl to test for us, give us feedback.
Are you interested?

quote:
Originally posted by eyeteeth

I sent an e-mail off the contact page from your website. I'm located in southwest Michigan.

eyeteeth at comcast dot net

in case you can't find my other e-mail... which was sent from my work account.

I like the other unit... video quality is decent... fairly easy to use... and it has a little built in LCD screen, but it records to .asf and it's a real pain in the but to do anything with the files after they are recorded. Especially being mostly a Mac guy.

Thanks, and please keep me informed. How big is the box? Size is important... thanks.

Ex-Navy

Of course. I'm very interested. I, like many others, purchased the unit for auto record abilities which as of yet, really don't exist as thought. I've been hoping the feature would be fixed, but thus far, have not been able to use the unit due to the bug.

When you're ready, just let me know. I get to the track pretty close to once a week. I'll have to frequent these forums a bit more often to stay in touch.

Thanks.

Thanks Eyeteeth,
The folks at Neuros are doing a fabulous job.
Like many users, the "add ons" for the NR2 (remote circuit) were fostered out of ideas on how to use the NR2 beyond the 115 volt outlet.
Barry, my counterpart in the UK is the genius behind the remote
protocol. Just like this great idea of open source, we like to share
our ideas with other users.
We all have expertise in some field.
We like to create "add ons", things like helmet cams, battery packs, a remote cct (lance remote)and a universal 5V portable power adaptor.
This adaptor will allow anyone to hook up any battery type to the
NR2 or 442. It will accept 4V-35Vdc. We should have it ready very
soon.

We will keep you updated Eyeteeth!

quote:
Originally posted by eyeteeth

Of course. I'm very interested. I, like many others, purchased the unit for auto record abilities which as of yet, really don't exist as thought. I've been hoping the feature would be fixed, but thus far, have not been able to use the unit due to the bug.

When you're ready, just let me know. I get to the track pretty close to once a week. I'll have to frequent these forums a bit more often to stay in touch.

Thanks.

Ex-Navy

Well I think I stumbled into the right thread.

I purchased my NR2 a few months ago because I want a permanent video recorder on my Yamaha R1. What I hope to eventually achieve is to turn on the bike, and have video record automatically with no user intervention. I also want it to loop record, so once the media is full, it begins to over-write existing data. So I never have to touch the unit unless I need recent video.

For example, I want video the next time I crash into a car that pulls out in front of me as evidence of who is at fault. Or the next time I get a ticket for driving on the shoulder I can have video evidence that I wasn't on the shoulder.

This auto record circuit is a big step toward that goal. If you're looking for testers, I'd be happy to help.

Hi MXracer95,
This is the same thing I wanted too. I had my car trunk broken into.
I lost $12,000 worth of test equip, laptop, etc.
The R2 is so small, records very good, I thought, why not make it
portable, make it record automatically by the press of a switch or
a motion sensor.
I have a small colour bullet cam with audio that takes have decent
video and audio.
I have gotten alot of emails about this, Bazamataz (user) is
co-developing a final product with us to introduce to users like
yourself.
We have Paddy, a motorcycle police officer in Australia interested
for his personal safety too.
The loop recording will be the next step in our endevours.
We will keep you up to date as to the progress.

quote:
Originally posted by mxracer95

Well I think I stumbled into the right thread.

I purchased my NR2 a few months ago because I want a permanent video recorder on my Yamaha R1. What I hope to eventually achieve is to turn on the bike, and have video record automatically with no user intervention. I also want it to loop record, so once the media is full, it begins to over-write existing data. So I never have to touch the unit unless I need recent video.

For example, I want video the next time I crash into a car that pulls out in front of me as evidence of who is at fault. Or the next time I get a ticket for driving on the shoulder I can have video evidence that I wasn't on the shoulder.

This auto record circuit is a big step toward that goal. If you're looking for testers, I'd be happy to help.

Ex-Navy

Hi

Looks very promising.

I am planing to use the Neuros in a model aircraft, the video will come from an on-board Sony CCD board camera.

1. Any idea when the auto-start unit will be available?

2. Approximate cost?

3. Weight? important in model aircraft. Would it be possible to remove the Nanos from it's case, and use the 'bare board'.
I realise, of course that this would invalidate the guarantee. [V]

Cheers

The final design of the printed circuit card is finished and sent
to a manufacturer for quotes/production.
The circuit has to be enclosed in a box of some type to all our LED
to be placed in front of the R2 IR demodulator. We designed a
complete acrylic blue box that will enclose the entire R2 and the cct
You can see the CAD drawing at www.olson-engineering.com
The box design has also gone out for quotes last week.

We will know more about pricing once the two quotes come back.

quote:
Originally posted by algy

Hi

Looks very promising.

I am planing to use the Neuros in a model aircraft, the video will come from an on-board Sony CCD board camera.

1. Any idea when the auto-start unit will be available?

2. Approximate cost?

3. Weight? important in model aircraft. Would it be possible to remove the Nanos from it's case, and use the 'bare board'.
I realise, of course that this would invalidate the guarantee. [V]

Cheers

Ex-Navy

I just wrote a topic but maybe it was better to post it here.. sorry!

..first of all thanks for such disposable advice which i find so useful.
Could you please help me to understand something?

- does the device comes with a kind of plastic box to allocate the circuit?

- does it come with a cable+button to switch recording on and off (as shown on the video example) or do i need to find out a button and a way to connect it to your circuit?

- how can i connect it to my neuros?

- there's written that it offers a 12v-5v output. I reckon i can connect to it my bullet cam and my neuros, is it right?
where does it take the power then? 12v input?

- last... is it possible to order from italy? how much would it be?

thank you so much for your availability and help and sorry for the several questions!!!

I believe the guys at Olson-Engineering are closed down for vacation. :)

I think I can answer some of these questions. I have a functional but bare circuit (no housing), but I believe the finished product includes a custom case which houses the circuit and the Recorder2. I do not know if the unit will come with a switch pre-wired. The unit I have does, but I will be changing it to a different type of switch, which will be very easy to do.

The circuit works exactly as Ex-Navy described. Connect power at one end and the Recorder2 at the other. Flip the switch. The recorder powers on and starts recording. There is an approximate 7-second delay between when the pressing of the button and the commencement of recording (by the way, this is faster than manually turning on the Neuros and pressing the record button on the wireless remote).

The circuit I have also has a 5v regulator wired to it. 12 volts are fed to the (small) 5v regulator, and the regulator then feeds 5v to the circuit. Power to the regulator comes from my 12v car battery. I also branch off of these leads (the wires between the 12v battery and the regulator) to feed two 12v bullet cameras. I branch off of the other leads (the 5v wires between the regulator and the one-touch record circuit) to power two Recorder2 units.

I've run some basic tests and have had very good results. Stay tuned to these forums, and look for a detailed write-up elsewhere soon.

2 cameras
2 Neuros Recorder2
1 Olson-Engineering cirucit
Endless opportunities. ;D

Don't want to say too much as Ex-Navy can do a much better job answering your questions. Just wanted to give everyone a heads-up that if replies seem slow from Ex-Navy and the guys at Olson, it is because they are on vacation for a couple of weeks. I can confirm that the product works, it is simple to use, and one circuit can trigger (at least) two Neuros Recorder2 units. ;D

Hi all,
im the guilty one for the cct,PCB and software design. Im only posting here today as Ex-navy wont be back until end August.
normally all questions should go through ex navy.
1) At this stage we are aiming to release the cct board with a standard 9 way Dtype conector so that the user can add thier own cable and switch type.
2) Once full testing is complete connectivity details will be sent with the cct
3) The cct will have a cable attached to the PCB with the correct power socket at the other end to fit the Neuros2 5v.
Im assuming that the same will apply to the "MIC in" and "CAM in" where the user only has to connect to the ( 9way Dtype) hence no soldering to the cct board itself. This was the intention when i designed the PCB
4) Ex-navy is looking into the enclosure
5) The detailed spec has yet to be finlaised, but the cct has a 5v regulator cct for the Neuros 2 only, and a 12v Boost cct for external "stuff" such as MIC and CAM upto a MAX of 2amps. So you could connect a 7v battery to Vin and get 12v out for your cams etc....

6) Aslong as you have a postman im sure it can be sent to you. ;)

Price TBD

Hope this helps a little until Ex-Navy comes back

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