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quote:Originally posted by Electron_Matrix
You're assuming a temporary patch would "just work" without creating other issues. How much more useless would your recorder be if the firmware patch completely destroyed your device or caused conflicts with other functions? Let them code and test and at least try to put out their best work. Then we can yell at them. []

Come on, we are talking about professionals, not hobby programmers! At the moment this product is completly unusable. If Windows would be for some reason completly unusable for nearly every customer, Microsoft would not need weeks to fix this.

quote:Originally posted by akts(at)sbcglobal.net

As for crappy aalogue recording.. good luck with the Sony recorder that will record just what THEY want you to watch.

Okay, but Neuros could at least support a native connection via S-Video or better RGB-Scart (I know, this European standard is unknown in the USA). A connection via Composite delivers the worst quality possible.

quote:Originally posted by kgriff125(at)aim.com

wait u cant record from a dvd? ...if not im definately not gettin this

Do you talk about this not yet existing Sony recorder mentioned by akts(at)sbcglobal.net? Well, I think this is about digital high quality recording, not about analogue low quality (lousy composite!) recording like it's done by neuros Recorder 2. Of course you can't do digital copies of DVD's, because therefore you need to break the copy protection and this is illegal in most countries.

quote:Originally posted by Ex-Navy
More power=less battery time

Not true for the PSP and the iPod and we are talking about a product sold as "A VCR for the Sony PSP™ and iPod™ Video!". So other less powerful devices are out of scope.

But I understand the Recorder 2 is not able to encode AVC/H.264 due to its weak power. Maybe this should be stated in big letters in ads to avoid wrong expectations. In these days MP4 is used as synonym for AVC/H.264 (especially in the communities of PSP and iPod users).

Back to topic: Hopefully we will see this urgent update soon, so this product would be usable again.

quote:Originally posted by Jeff123

What is h.264 encoding? Just wondering.

Don't you use your PSP for videos (besides R2)? Every MP4 for PSP available on the web is encoded in AVC (aka H.264). If you buy a Video-UMD, it's AVC. If you download free videos at yourpsp.com, they are encoded in AVC. If you buy videos for an iPod at iTunes, they are encoded in AVC. For more, read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H.264/MPEG-4_AVC

quote:Originally posted by Jeff123

Just spent several hours talking to Sony customer service. They seem to have no idea about this inability to play mpeg4 files. They said they should play. Unfortunately (and this is totally insane), they have no way to contact the firmware people and get the real info on what is going on. I would encourage everyone to complain to Sony to get some info from them.

Sony will not release a new version 2.8 just for NEUROS customers. It's now up to NEUROS to release an update of Recorder 2 asap! Obviously the produced MP4's are in some aspect not standard conform and NEUROS should fix this (or - better - build in AVC-support to be on the safe side).

quote:Originally posted by akts(at)sbcglobal.net

The folks here at Neuros have ALWAYS been great, This is not their fault.. it is to me SONY.

Maybe they are great, but NEUROS should have included support for AVC long ago. AVC is THE standard video format for the PSP. The quality is better and the files are way smaller. All freely available videos by Sony are in AVC and the official Sony PC application for the PSP (http://www.sonymediasoftware.com/Products/ShowProduct.asp?PID=995) supports AVC only. Had Neuros build in support for AVC right from the beginning we wouldn't have this fatal desaster now.

quote:You aren't copying DVDs, are you?

No, my problems (wandering shadow in picture, whistle sound) are there for every source. To illustrate the poor quality of picture and sound I give you a sample (5 MB):
http://mitglied.lycos.de/tsteinke/M4V00005.MP4

I have the same issue. But compared to the high whistle sound and the black line wandering from right to left on every recording this is a minor issue. My device was bought in UK (amazon.co.uk) and I use it in a PAL environment (and 220 Volt AC/DC).

BTW, for PSP the standard for MP4's is AVC. Every videoclip at yourpsp.com is coded in AVC and the official Sony application PSP Media Manager produces AVC only. But your device is not able to produce it or even play it.