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Lou Erickson
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« on: October 14, 2011, 06:24:05 pm »

Hi there.  I've got an OSD I haven't used much that I am now having a problem with.  I used it briefly last winter, and it worked fine.

I'm watching the output of the Recorder on the television.    When the menus are up, they are transparent over the input signal.  When I start recording, I see the "Recording" indicator, with the counter, for five seconds, then it goes away, leaving just the video signal I'm recording.

After a few minutes, the output goes black.  The remote won't respond, nothing seems to be happening.

It may still be actually recording, but the only way to get control of the device is a power-cycle, and that leaves the mp4 file unplayable.

I formatted my SD card.  I tried a factory reset.  I tried an Emergency Update to the current firmware.  No change.

I'm trying a recording with an end point, to see if it's working just nonresponsive.  I don't expect it is.

Any suggestions?

Any other ideas what might be causing this?
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« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2011, 08:31:40 pm »

Nope, the timed recording did not worked.  the osd.mp4 wasn't even in the file system.

I'm out of ideas now.
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« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2011, 09:45:23 pm »

Rather odd.  But there are a few indicators to check:

1) There is a red recording LED on the OSD.  If it goes out, then the recording is definitely stopping as part of whatever is causing the hang.
2) You formatted the SD card, but did you try a different one?  If there are bad blocks on the card, that could also cause a lock up.
3) Which firmware are you using?  3.33-2.09?  (There is the newest stable and there was also a later beta.)
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« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2011, 01:07:35 pm »

The red light was not going out; it would stay on.

The screen would go blank, which is very odd.  If the device is off, it's a pass-through, so you should be able to see the video.

It did occur to me that it might be the CF.  I'm trying now with a USB stick.  So far, it's worked much better.  If it's just a bad CF, I'm relieved.
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« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2011, 10:24:31 am »

The CF seems to have been the problem.

I switched over to a USB stick, and the OSD is working perfectly.

I don't have another CF handy to try, but don't care that pressingly.  I'm able to move ahead and the OSD is working. Yay!

Now, to find the tools on the PC to trim the ends of the video without completely re-encoding the thing.  =)
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« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2011, 12:30:42 pm »

Hunt the forums, there was a discussion on editing programs that can do so without re-encoding.

Also, note the OSD has USB 1.1, so the USB stick is fine at lower resolution/bitrates, but at higher the port becomes a bottleneck.
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« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2011, 12:30:36 pm »

I would suggest you stay away from no-name SD cards. If you do a little bit of searching, you'll find some shocking horror stories of clone SD cards that look as if somebody took the quality control rejects and stamped their own name on them. A bit more digging, you'll discover the cards barely cost more than the bulk price of the flash chip (and this is not counting the SD card, the controller chip, the packaging...) so it appears to be a highly cutthroat industry.

A useful editor is http://www.dvdvideosoft.com/products/dvd/Free-Video-Dub.htm [but watch the can-we-install-rubbish-for-you when you exit - click the red close icon NOT the continue button!]. It messes up the video timeline (though most of the time you are unlikely to notice) but it is very quick because it simply rebuilds the file chucking away unwanted stuff, there's no re-encoding.

The red LED will turn green once the file has been finalised. The two times my OSD failed (writing BIG files to SD), the red light remained on. You can fairly safely say the LED going green means you have a useful file. However if it gets stuck, it is almost always beforehand.

The output will turn black regardless of pass-through because at that point the OSD is generating its own output and the video system has switched off to allow the recording to complete. This is normal(ish) behaviour for ending recording (the screen briefly goes black). Of course, it isn't normal when you didn't ask it to do that!

The pass-through only works when the OSD isn't generating its own video, so you will see OSD-generated video most of the time if you have menus active, or are actually recording.

If you can, I'd suggest you try an S-video connection. It makes the quality a bit better (less patterning on colours). Mind out, however, that you disconnect the composite video lead when using S-video.


Best wishes,

Rick.
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« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2011, 07:10:13 pm »

If you can, I'd suggest you try an S-video connection. It makes the quality a bit better (less patterning on colours). Mind out, however, that you disconnect the composite video lead when using S-video.

And also there is a setting in the menus that you have to flip between "composite" and "S-video".
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