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ghavenga(at)riverview.net
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 Posted - 12/27/2003 : 04:24:05 AM
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I'm getting this message:
The application for project 'f:\.....\NSM Open Source\APIError\APIError.csproj' is not installed.
Make sure the application for the project type (.csproj) is installed.
Is this stuff written in C#???
DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID!!!
Good Grief, good thing I brought my MSDN disks home.
Sheesh!
G
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K-Man666
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 06:22:46 AM
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I think it is written in C#, thats what we need the .NET framework for.
If yoou're on Linux/Unix/Windows and don't want to install the .net SDK, try mono.
Kaspar (The German Guy) |
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JoeBorn
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 12:01:49 PM
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Just to let everyone know, we're in the process of setting up a bugzilla server on open.neurosaudio.com and this project should be posted to sourceforge shortly. Don't blame us for delays at this point, it's in the community's hands now! 
jborn@neurosaudio.com |
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K-Man666
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 1:02:18 PM
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Why was the MyFi code removed from NSM, as far as I know MusicBrainz, the software from retable MyFi uses is OpenSource ?
If you use another server,it should be no problem to change to that one as it uses the same technology.
Kaspar (The German Guy) |
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ghavenga(at)riverview.net
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 6:04:02 PM
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As regards C#, I wonder what the compelling reason was for choosing that over straight C++ - especially for something that was intended to be open source.
I work on a product that is supported on Mac, Linux, and of course, Windows. We have a large amount of OS/GUI independent code, with small back-ends for each OS/Platform. We've stuck to C/C++ just so we can do this without a lot of hassle.
I guess I could see writing the front-end stuff in something that was platform dependent, the easier to maintain, the better, but I would have expected the vast majority to be done in something more portable.
The other reason for sticking to C/C++ is that the vast majority of people who would want to modify/enhance the code already know it. Even MFC is a known quantity (if we were going oddball, I'd prefer C++ Builder, which is now cross platform, but I'm not going to press that point as I'm tired of tilting at windmills).
Anyhow, back to the main problem - I still haven't been able to do a full build - but then I've only tried to do a full build once since getting C# on my system. If I can't resolve the remaining errors, I suppose post again.
G
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ghavenga(at)riverview.net
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 6:06:37 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by K-Man666
Why was the MyFi code removed from NSM, as far as I know MusicBrainz, the software from retable MyFi uses is OpenSource ?
If you use another server,it should be no problem to change to that one as it uses the same technology.
Kaspar (The German Guy)
Did you mean HiSi?
Greg
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Cool4u2view
Neuros Audio Team
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 7:20:10 PM
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Yes he means HiSi. Remember that just because a project uses open source code does not change the fact that the enveloping code may be proprietary.
-Jeff |
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demonbane
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 8:12:59 PM
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Originally posted by Cool4u2view
Yes he means HiSi. Remember that just because a project uses open source code does not change the fact that the enveloping code may be proprietary.
-Jeff
Assuming that HiSi does, in fact, work through the MusicBrainz system, it would certainly seem that it CAN be open sourced. According to the MusicBrainz website, the MB Tagger, their program for tagging MP3's by doing what HiSi does to find the name of a song, is released under the GPL. That would mean that the code can't use any proprietary libraries either. As such, you would IMAGINE that the HiSi code could be released. Either case, worst case scenario, someone can just port the code from MB Tagger and integrate it into the NSM source. (*** Warning! Shameless plug!!! ***) Or, better yet, port that code into NDBM. :) |
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Cool4u2view
Neuros Audio Team
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 8:27:41 PM
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There is no reason why someone can't integrate anything they want into NSM, now that it is open source. It is now time for people to take power into their own hands instead of sitting back. The community can now work together to make NSM into the application it should be, with all the features everyone wants.
-Jeff |
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artur83
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Posted - 12/27/2003 : 10:07:04 PM
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I'm actually waiting for the Neuros OS, the firmware to get Open source. I guess a lot of people would want that.
Or at least have a 'shell' type approach(i guess that's how u'd call it, or 'embeded') just like those TI calculators. So we can write our own programs and just ADD them to the current FW version. The 'shelled' mini-programs would have to be written on the PC, and not on the Neuros itself (not like the old TI (i.e. TI80))
I'm dying to get this feature.(although it's my 4rth day i think using the Neuros):) |
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K-Man666
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Posted - 12/30/2003 : 2:30:09 PM
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Of course I meant HiSi.
The bad thing is that I have hardly any programming skills (except bad old VB), so I can't port the MusicBrainz code in myself. Anyway I'd like to find out more about how HiSi works and if it uses the MB database.
To Joe / anyone else from the neuros team: Couldn't there be a NSM, closed source plugin to keep the HiSi function working with the opened code ?
To arthur83: Search the forums for sth about fiemware/scripting language.
To demonbane / starkey: How long will it take until NDBM and NSM can use the same databases ? This would make it much easier to usethem. If NDBM would contain access to ALL neuros functions there would be no need to workwith C# anymore.
Kaspar (The German Guy) |
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kronin
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Posted - 12/30/2003 : 4:33:00 PM
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Originally posted by K-Man666
To demonbane / starkey: How long will it take until NDBM and NSM can use the same databases ? This would make it much easier to usethem. If NDBM would contain access to ALL neuros functions there would be no need to workwith C# anymore.
I know the question wasn't directed at me, but I know part of the answer, so here it is. The problem is that NSM _never_ reads the database off the Neuros, it assumes what it knew when it last created the database is still correct. NeurosDBM always reads the database off the Neuros, that's why you can use it on multiple computers without any problems. If someone wrote a piece to NSM where it actually pulls the database off the Neuros, then they could work together nicely. I think I remember Starkey saying something about NeurosDBM not being able to read NSM-created databases, but that was awhile ago so I'm not sure if it's still true. I have never used NSM, so I can't test this.
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demonbane
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Posted - 12/30/2003 : 4:44:33 PM
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| We certainly COULD make NDBM read NSM's databases, but as kronin pointed out, there's no real reason to do so. Since NSM keeps all of its information on the PC as opposed to the Neuros itself, there's no reason for us to touch the NSM database. If NSM gets updated so that it stores the database on the Neuros itself, then we could certainly look at implementing it. (Or NSM could look into implementing our open XML database... :) |
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jahf(at)yahoo.com
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Posted - 12/31/2003 : 3:07:31 PM
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Calling All Hands!
Long story short, I'm the one that is currently holding things up for getting a better way to maintain the open sourced NSM since I'm the one who volunteered to set up the SourceForge site and configure the Bugzilla server.
Funny thing is this ... I don't currently have Windows on any machines, much less Visual Studio .NET. I'll have a Win2K partition shortly (my machine died this month, which combined with back surgery and relatives visiting perhaps explains my delays), but even then probably won't have a Microsoft .NET compiler.
So, my role is primarily one of organizing a set of areas (SourceForge, BugZilla, etc) to make this possible to help DI since I have some experience with these kinds of things and it allows DI to stay reasonably "hands-off".
That means I would REALLY like a couple of people to volunteer to make sure that any new code that is contributed gets at -LEAST- a quick looking at and a compile to make sure it works. Plus, it would be good to have more than just one person with access to each of these sites as when I go back to work I'll have some weeks where I'm travelling.
So ... if you want to volunteer to be a compile master (in other words you have the tools in hand, have a few hours a week to commit to this, and have successfully compiled the code already) please drop me a line at jahf-at-yahoo.com.
/Geoff (getting back in action)
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Sean Starkey
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Posted - 12/31/2003 : 5:08:20 PM
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Compiling before committing is for wimps.
Sean Starkey - Project Manager for Neuros Database Manipulator - http://neurosdbm.sourceforge.net |
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demonbane
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Posted - 01/01/2004 : 03:14:32 AM
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In that case I'll just keep my mouth shut about how many compiles I did before committing the auto update code... ;)
And I suppose next you're going to tell us that you should always make a flowchart and write some pseudocode before you start coding? :) |
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Sean Starkey
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Posted - 01/01/2004 : 11:51:47 AM
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You've looked at my code Alex. Do you think I make flowcharts and psuedocode?
Actually since it takes about 8 seconds on my machine to build NDBM, I compile quite often too.
Sean Starkey - Project Manager for Neuros Database Manipulator - http://neurosdbm.sourceforge.net |
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jjlupa(at)jamdata.net
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Posted - 01/05/2004 : 7:12:57 PM
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Thanks a million! The zip (as pulled 1/5/04) compiles up fine with VS.NET 2003. I had no issues on a clean run either (though I haven't gotten into the grit yet).
Is there going to be something of a developer forum on sourceforge or something (rather than swimming through the perpetual NSM source thread)? |
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ghavenga(at)riverview.net
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Posted - 01/05/2004 : 8:28:32 PM
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I have a reference to OGGVORBISTAGLib that I cannot resolve. I've checked all the folders in the source zip file, but I can't find ogg anything.
I downloaded the ogg windows SDK, but there was nothing resembling the reference to OGGVORBISTAGLib.
Now what?
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ghavenga(at)riverview.net
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Posted - 01/05/2004 : 9:04:28 PM
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Ok, found the Ogg stuff, but can't resolve the WMPLib type or namespace.
What's that in?
I've tried re-adding the OCX and the interop.wmplib..., but nothing so far.
Oh, my kingdom for a simple makefile.
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