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Sean Starkey
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 Posted - 03/09/2004 : 08:45:00 AM
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Originally posted by DrTuba
Quick Question:
Will the usb 2 gamma packs be mac compatible? If so, i will order immediately.
Obsessive dilettante
People (not me) have tested the USB 2.0 backpacks on OSX with great results.
Sean Starkey - Project Manager for Neuros Database Manipulator - http://neurosdbm.sourceforge.net |
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kronin
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 09:52:28 AM
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Originally posted by DrTuba
Quick Question:
Will the usb 2 gamma packs be mac compatible? If so, i will order immediately.
Obsessive dilettante
Yes, I have tested the USB 2 backpack with a blue & white G3 running OS X 10.2, no problems whatsoever. If you have any specific hardware or OS you were wondering about, let me know. My dad has a G4 desktop and a G3 powerbook, and I have an old 9600 I could boot up if you want. |
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virgopa(at)earlham.edu
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 11:07:24 AM
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The 1.1 usb port is on the Neuros itself rather than the backpack. Does that change with the upgrade? Will an upgrade somehow make the 128mb backpack work with usb 2.0 as well? (Not that it matters as much for the limited space.. )
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 11:14:47 AM
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No, the USB 2.0 only affects the backpack... although it may be possible if someone were to take the time do devlope flash images PC side and be able to send the image to the backpack and restore it to the 128MB. This would lead into developing custom playlists and custom images to send to the 128MB from the Neuros itself. Like say the 20GB could store multiple images and you can choose what you want.. It's not possible yet but who knows (I don't know if anyone besides myself has thought about such things. It seems fairly straightforward).
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kronin
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 11:15:51 AM
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Originally posted by virgopa(at)earlham.edu
The 1.1 usb port is on the Neuros itself rather than the backpack. Does that change with the upgrade? Will an upgrade somehow make the 128mb backpack work with usb 2.0 as well? (Not that it matters as much for the limited space.. )
~Pablo
The USB 2.0 port is on the backpack, not the main unit. The main unit remains unchanged, meaning you'll still have USB 1.1 to transfer songs to/from your Neuros when in 128 MB configuration. |
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rudolph
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 11:53:48 AM
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Originally posted by kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
...We really just want to take the time to properly test each unit, especially battery calibration problems, so it works out of the box. Also, slight changes have been made to the device since the release, and this will bring all components up to date....
Suppose I get a neuros right now, will my neuros have these "slight changes that have been made to the device since the release?"
Also, if I later decide to buy a 2.0 backpack with a 20gb drive, will I have "battery calibration problems"?
Thanks! |
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demonbane
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 3:30:48 PM
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Originally posted by Cool4u2view
No, the USB 2.0 only affects the backpack... although it may be possible if someone were to take the time do devlope flash images PC side and be able to send the image to the backpack and restore it to the 128MB. This would lead into developing custom playlists and custom images to send to the 128MB from the Neuros itself. Like say the 20GB could store multiple images and you can choose what you want.. It's not possible yet but who knows (I don't know if anyone besides myself has thought about such things. It seems fairly straightforward).
I was actually working on a feature for NDBM that would allow you to store 128 MB playlists on the Neuros for a quick-sync before OS/2 was released. This involved copying the songs over each time, however. Now with the flash backup option, this goes out the window.
However, I have been thinking about going in a direction similar to what you had mentioned. I need to look more at what kind of a backup is actually done on the HD backpack, but if it is, as I hope, the contents of the flash drive dumped into a directory on the Neuros, then it would be quite possible.
We would essentially just change the NDBM device path to point to the backup directory instead of the base Neuros directory and treat it as a regular 128 MB backpack, copying music from the Neuros itself rather than from your computer.
Hopefully that didn't come out quite as convoluted as I think it did. :) I'm still thinking as I type this so there's not much processor time left to logical organization. :) |
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Chameleon
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 3:50:04 PM
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Originally posted by demonbane
I was actually working on a feature for NDBM that would allow you to store 128 MB playlists on the Neuros for a quick-sync before OS/2 was released. This involved copying the songs over each time, however. Now with the flash backup option, this goes out the window.
However, I have been thinking about going in a direction similar to what you had mentioned. I need to look more at what kind of a backup is actually done on the HD backpack, but if it is, as I hope, the contents of the flash drive dumped into a directory on the Neuros, then it would be quite possible.
Sounds like a nice feature to me, however I think that the flash backup simply does a bit-for-bit copy of the RAM contents to a single file on the HD.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!' |
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kronin
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 4:01:50 PM
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Originally posted by Chameleon
Sounds like a nice feature to me, however I think that the flash backup simply does a bit-for-bit copy of the RAM contents to a single file on the HD.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'
If that's the case, then at least in Linux you could mount that single file as a fat32 partition using the loopback device. Then you can read and write to it just like you read and write to the 128 MB Neuros. Not sure if there's something similar to a loopback device in Windows or not. I just did a quick search, but couldn't find anything on Google that referenced a java utility to treat a single file like a fat32 filesystem. There's Jakarta's Virtual Filesystem, but Fat32 isn't one of their supported types yet. http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/vfs/filesystems.html
It would be easier if the firmware backed the 128 MB flash up into a directory. Plus it would fix the problem where even if your 128 MB flash is only half full, the backup is still 128 MB. It would be more complicated from a firmware standpoint, though, as it wouldn't be able to do a bit-for-bit copy. |
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TARTZ
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 5:06:12 PM
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I just noticed that the upgrade is "currently unavailable". None of the guys are around the office right now that can update the quantity available. This does not mean out of stock. What I'm saying is, go ahead and place your order anyway as it's just an adjustment in the system that should be done tomorrow. Your order will be processed anyway.
Tim Artz
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Chameleon
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 5:09:58 PM
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Originally posted by kronin
If that's the case, then at least in Linux you could mount that single file as a fat32 partition using the loopback device. Then you can read and write to it just like you read and write to the 128 MB Neuros.
I was thinking of that, too, but really you're right when you say this:
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Originally posted by kronin
It would be easier if the firmware backed the 128 MB flash up into a directory. Plus it would fix the problem where even if your 128 MB flash is only half full, the backup is still 128 MB. It would be more complicated from a firmware standpoint, though, as it wouldn't be able to do a bit-for-bit copy.
Also any non-music files would need to be moved over. Can't forget those.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!' |
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Nahor
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 8:30:21 PM
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webkid
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Posted - 03/09/2004 : 9:18:12 PM
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| Gamma units are cool. |
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damionromero(at)hotmail.com
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Posted - 03/10/2004 : 01:59:46 AM
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OK.
I would send my backpack in, but I don't have one (only a 128MB, that is). Can I buy a 20GB backpack at the online store and have the upgrade done on it, or do I have to send the brain along with it? Can I send just my brain in and have it paired with a backpack there?
Should I just wait?
What do I do???!!
Thanks,
damion |
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webkid
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Posted - 03/10/2004 : 02:06:04 AM
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| Working under the assumption that you will be without your Neuros for a longer period of time if you buy the HD now and upgrade later, you probably should just wait for the 2.0 backpack, which won't be long now. |
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PRMan
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Posted - 03/10/2004 : 12:42:17 PM
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Not to be a problem child, but I seem to remember that the upgrade was supposed to be 40GB and USB 2.0. Are these units 40GB?
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kronin
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Posted - 03/10/2004 : 12:46:53 PM
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Originally posted by PRMan
Not to be a problem child, but I seem to remember that the upgrade was supposed to be 40GB and USB 2.0. Are these units 40GB?
PRMan
Where did you hear that the upgrade was going to be 40 GB? I don't remember ever hearing that.
That said, these units are 20 GB, not 40 GB. |
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kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
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Posted - 03/10/2004 : 1:45:05 PM
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Kronin is correct, but I know soon we are going to have larger hard drive options.
K
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PRMan
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Posted - 03/11/2004 : 2:05:18 PM
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When I purchased (April 2003), I seem to remember that they said that there was a free upgrade to 40GB and USB 2.0. I was just wondering if this was that.
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webkid
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Posted - 03/11/2004 : 2:06:21 PM
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There was never official mention of a 40 gB upgrade, free or not. Where did you get this from?
(Edit: clarification) |
Edited by - webkid on 03/11/2004 2:07:23 PM |
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