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webkid
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  11:02:32 AM  Show Profile  Send webkid an AOL message
The three options you have, from most reasonable to least likely:
1. Wait until the Ogg Peeler comes out, and then use it manually on your Neuros, or let someone integrate it into a sync manager.
2. Wait for the next-gen Neuros III, which (more than likely) will include higher processing power.
3. Wait until a high-powered DSP in the form of a backpack is realesed from DI.

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bhcompy
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  11:20:41 AM  Show Profile
what's the ogg peeler?
what's the eta on the III?
what's the eta on the backpack?

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kronin
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  11:44:53 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bhcompy

what's the ogg peeler?
what's the eta on the III?
what's the eta on the backpack?


The ogg peeler is a program that takes an ogg file at, say, q7 and peels off information to make it a q5 file, with the idea that you can go down in quality and that the file that you get after peeling is the same as if you encoded the .wav file directly to that quality ogg file. It was one of the original design requirements of ogg vorbis. It has come up on ogg-traffic, however, that the bits need reordering in order for peeling to work. Noone has developed even a beta peeler that works as intended, so I wouldn't hold your breath on this one. Monty also said at one point that the new version of vorbis will be easier to peel.

There is no eta on the NIII, as the NII just came out. This is a "down the road" kind of thing, just like the backpack. By my guess, either one is at least a year out, with a more reasonable estimate being 2 years or more. However, I don't work for Neuros Audio, and neither does Webkid, so who knows?

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webkid
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  11:47:20 AM  Show Profile  Send webkid an AOL message
quote:
Originally posted by bhcompy
what's the ogg peeler?
what's the eta on the III?
what's the eta on the backpack?

(In order)
Ogg Peeler: http://www.vorbis.com/ot/20030331.html#id2728792
ETAs: none. Neither product has been announced by DI. They are both just possibilities, which is why they were at the end of the "realistic" list.

(Edit: Man, Kronin. You're just jumping in above of all my replies. )

Edited by - webkid on 09/16/2004 11:48:33 AM

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kronin
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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  12:40:52 PM  Show Profile
webkid, good link on the peeler. Here's some more info:
http://www.vorbis.com/ot/20030415.html#id2728830
That first peeler was an april fool's joke.
Here's a link to the discussion thread on it:
http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/vorbis/2003-April/010339.html

and as far as jumping in above your replies, I have to get to 1,000 posts somehow

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