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TARTZ
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Posted - 05/21/2003 :  2:57:35 PM  Show Profile
This hidden mode will allow you to adjust your MyFi volume:

From the Songs menu do the following key combination: down, rewind, ffwd, up, down. That will turn on the feature and doing that again will turn the feature off. The only way to know if the feature is on or not is during MyFi. The broadcast frequency will be followed by a (gain) representing the gain of the audio. To adjust, use Preset 1 and Preset 5 to go up/down by 3dB, respectively. Preset 3 sets the gain to nominal. Preset 2, Preset 4 increase/decrease gain by 1dB. Maximum gain is 12dB, minimum gain is -6dB. We should mention that since there is such a huge variation from song to song, it is impossible, without a more advanced feature such as volume leveling, to have every song set to optimum. If your songs start distorting, back down on the gain a little.
This feature will not save the volume you have selected when you get out of this mode and will need to be reset every time the Neuros is restarted.

Tim Artz

PS This is only available on firmware version 1.34 or higher http://www.neurosaudio.com/support/support_updates_beta.asp


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jahf(at)yahoo.com
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Posted - 05/22/2003 :  10:19:03 AM  Show Profile
Okie doke ... I got around to putting 1.34 back on my machine and testing this feature.

From what I can see, it only affects the volume level, not the actual signal strength. While that can help reduce the appearance of static by masking it to some degree, it doesn't do anything to actually improve the signal.

In other words, it helps overcome the static inherent in the MyFi process, but it doesn't help if you are having trouble finding a clear station to lock on to.

It is the signal strength most (or at least I) have been asking for when we ask for "louder" or "stronger" MyFi.

I would love to see some way of boosting the MyFi strength so that I can get as strong a signal when there are no RF cables (or headphones, or power) as when I have everything all plugged in. I'm willing to live with the extra battery drain.

BTW Tim, I'm not saying your tip isn't helpful, I just don't think it covers as many of the requests as the multitude of crossposts had made me hope for ;)

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Posted - 05/22/2003 :  10:22:33 AM  Show Profile
Also, it would be much more useful if this feature would stay on through power offs. Unlike my TiVo, which rarely gets powered off, having to enter secret codes on my Neuros every time it is powered up is a pain.

I know, it's a hidden feature, but I think it should be moved to a static option under the MyFi menu. I definitely see it's value.

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Posted - 05/22/2003 :  12:57:32 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by jahf(at)yahoo.com
From what I can see, it only affects the volume level, not the actual signal strength. While that can help reduce the appearance of static by masking it to some degree, it doesn't do anything to actually improve the signal.



You're absolutely correct, but I think the most important benefit of this feature is that the "volume" coming out of your speakers can be made to equal the "volume" of the other radio stations on the dial. That way, there's not that HUGE volume jump when you turn your Neuros off and listen to the radio.

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Hero
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Posted - 05/24/2003 :  12:11:01 AM  Show Profile
Cool....I thought it was strange that the increased volume from 1.30 was removed....silly me you just improved it.

The volume gain sould be in the release notes for v1.34.

Thanks for the tip!
Bryan

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Posted - 05/26/2003 :  7:37:23 PM  Show Profile
I just tried to install the 1.34 upgrade, but couldn't get it to respond in the fashion spelled out in the release notes.

It worked OK through item 7, but never went from USB active to U
SB idle. I took the instructions literally and copied the "firmware" directory (and its contents, the file named woid.hex) to the removable drive (g on my computer).

The directory tree now has 6 subdirectories including firmware, music, Woid_db, WOID_HISI, WOID_RECORD, and WOID_SYNC.

Did I do something wrong?

Thanks,
Dean Park

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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 05/26/2003 :  9:29:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cool4u2view's Homepage  Send Cool4u2view an AOL message  Click to see Cool4u2view's MSN Messenger address  Send Cool4u2view a Yahoo! Message
Use the follwing advice at your own risk...
You did nothing wrong ...just close the folder wait about ohh 10 seconds disconnect the cable (yes do it anyway) and follow the instructions.

For some reason mine never went to idle either but I ignored it because I knew my transfer was complete and nothing else was being done on the drive. In my opinion it is perfectly safe if you know it is done with everything else.
Again I say do this at your own risk because everyones computer is different and if you run such apps like virus scanners etc it may in fact be reading your drive.

-Jeff

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Posted - 05/28/2003 :  7:58:57 PM  Show Profile
Thanks, it worked. The MyFi volume boost is sooo much better. I hope a more convenient way to access it is available soon.

Dean Park

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Posted - 05/31/2003 :  1:14:27 PM  Show Profile  Click to see shadow-moon(at)msn.com's MSN Messenger address
Can we get the the WIFI gain added to the WIFI menu, instend of having it hinden behind a funky set up keys? As it stands on I feel like I am using a cheat code on a game, or a hack. I would like a more refined Fireware.

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Posted - 05/31/2003 :  8:48:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cool4u2view's Homepage  Send Cool4u2view an AOL message  Click to see Cool4u2view's MSN Messenger address  Send Cool4u2view a Yahoo! Message
You mean MyFi...

-Jeff

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Posted - 06/07/2003 :  1:41:25 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Hero

Cool....I thought it was strange that the increased volume from 1.30 was removed....silly me you just improved it.

The volume gain sould be in the release notes for v1.34.

Thanks for the tip!
Bryan



I am back to ask that once we put the neuros into the gain mode is holds the setting. I often switch from MyFi to headphones and back. It would be nice to "set it and forget it".....

Bryan

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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 06/07/2003 :  2:55:21 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cool4u2view's Homepage  Send Cool4u2view an AOL message  Click to see Cool4u2view's MSN Messenger address  Send Cool4u2view a Yahoo! Message
I'd say something like that would be best implemented when we get bookmarking features.

-Jeff

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Posted - 07/10/2003 :  10:52:08 PM  Show Profile
This is a great feature, and I very much wish it were somehow available during normal use, without having to know secret codes. I hope that this will make the menus sometime soon.

I also would like it to go just a touch higher, if possible, so that it would match the levels of normal radio bands, but it is much, much better now. Instead of being completely inaudible, it's just a little quiet, and changing from one to the other isn't jarring.

Thank you for putting this in!

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carwashi
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Posted - 08/03/2003 :  05:14:00 AM  Show Profile
So any news about this getting added to the MyFi menu anytime soon? I hadnt seen a post on it for a while and just wanted to make sure that everybody didn't forget about it.

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Posted - 08/04/2003 :  12:47:01 AM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message
The only thing that would suck about having this on permanently is that you can't use the presets while it's active.

It would be nice to have a way to turn it on and off through the Xi menu though.

Edit:
I got to thinking a bit more about this and it might be a good tradeoff to have an option that toggles what happens when you hold down a preset button between setting a preset and adjusting the gain.

i.e.:
Settings \ Presets \ Hold Function:
- Set Preset
- Adjust Gain

and the preset list could still be available in another menu choice:
Settings \ Presets \ List Presets

Order Number: 2249

Edited by - Chameleon on 08/04/2003 12:58:57 AM

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airberger
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Posted - 08/06/2003 :  2:02:19 PM  Show Profile  Visit airberger's Homepage
Just got my Neuros 128 MB/20 GB combo yesterday, everything's gone pretty smoothly so far except buy.com didn't send me the car power adaptor. Oh well.

So the firmware (1.38) and software (1.28) are all pretty up-to-date. Any reason the down-RR-FF-up-down sequence shouldn't work for me? It works in FM mode to show what I think is battery voltage but doesn't work in play mode to allow me to boost MyFi volume. I'm not seeing anything that looks like "gain" following the broadcast frequency. Am I missing something?

Thanks

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Posted - 08/06/2003 :  8:51:22 PM  Show Profile  Visit Cool4u2view's Homepage  Send Cool4u2view an AOL message  Click to see Cool4u2view's MSN Messenger address  Send Cool4u2view a Yahoo! Message
MyFi gain seq. is pressed while in the song menu not while in FM mode.

-Jeff

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Posted - 08/07/2003 :  12:15:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit airberger's Homepage
Thanks - I guess I didn't make myself clear, but what I meant to say was that I tried the sequence both in the song menu and while a song was playing, but no gain indicators appeared.

In FM Radio mode the same key sequence shows you battery voltage, I was just pointing out that the sequence works as intended in one mode but not in another.

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Posted - 08/08/2003 :  10:57:38 AM  Show Profile  Visit Skie's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by airberger

Thanks - I guess I didn't make myself clear, but what I meant to say was that I tried the sequence both in the song menu and while a song was playing, but no gain indicators appeared.

In FM Radio mode the same key sequence shows you battery voltage, I was just pointing out that the sequence works as intended in one mode but not in another.




it took me a few attempts to get it, but while playing a song, do the sequence and you'll see a "(0)" next to the MyFi frequency. Once you see that, start pressing up or down on the presets. :)

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Posted - 08/08/2003 :  11:05:29 AM  Show Profile  Visit Skie's Homepage
Just to add, you can hit this sequence a second time to get out of it to use your presets, but once you stop playing a song, the volume gain is lost. But as long as you're playing songs, I believe the gain stays.

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Posted - 08/12/2003 :  12:28:53 AM  Show Profile
The gain will stay as long as you dont turn the Neuros off. So you can stop a song and go to another one and you wont loose the volume.

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