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Schwilly
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 Posted - 05/26/2004 : 03:19:13 AM
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Want a longer lasting Neuros? This is a "how to" I quickly wrote up for using a portable external battery. As of now, this will NOT increase run time with a full battery because, unfortunately, with the current firmware, the backlight stays on the whole goddamned time as long as the DC input is being used. However, if you internal battery IS dead, one should be able to plug this in and give it some more life. With that said...
The Neuros HD DC input is rated between 9-16V with .8A draw. Tip is positive. All these parts are found at Ratshack:
RC Pack 9.6V 1600mAh Battery Pack
RC Repair kit (red and black wire connector)
Adaptaplug Socket
Adaptaplug Model "H" (3.4mm OD, 1.3mm ID)
Optional:
Adaptaplug 6' extension cord
RC 9.6V NiHM/NiCD charger
[1] connect the Adaptaplug Model "H" to the Adaptaplug Socket, making sure that tip gos to positive.
[2] crimp the bare wires of the Adaptaplug Socket into the Red Connectors of the RC Repair Kit adapter. The wire with writing on the Adaptaplug Socket is Positive, and the red wire from the Repair Kit adapter is also positive. Crimp accordingly
[3] Connect the Repair Kit's plastic end into the fully charged RC Pack 9.6V 1600mAh Battery Pack's plastic end. It only fits one way, so don't force it..
[4] Plug the free end into the Neuros. On the Neuros you can observe the battery being charged as well as the voltage increasing (press the down button and toggle the "hold" switch)
EDIT: This has left bare wires exposed and could be potentially dangerous, wrap any bare wires with electrical tape to ensure that the wires do not touch each other or other metal.
Optional:
[5] Disconnect the Adaptaplug Model "H" from the Adaptaplug Socket. Insert in the Adaptaplu Extension Cord making sure the + & tip line up on the Adaptaplug Model "H" side, and that the tip and arrow match up on the Adaptaplug Socket side. The cord with the white strip on the Extension Cord is positive.
[6] Recharge RC Pack by disconnecting and plugging into recharder.
It's not gonna blow up if you switch + & -. The neuros has a protective diode inside.
All the parts cost between $45 and $50, including RC pack and charger.
Theoretically this should give the Neuros 2 extra hours of battery life, but I am assuming a bit less. I'll run some tests and give exact numbers.
Below are some pictures. Here we have the Neuros up top, the RC pack to the left, the Adaptaplug Model "H" middle-left, the Socket (white) crimped onto the red connectors of the Repair Kit adapter in the middle, and finally the extension cord on the far right.
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v15/Schwilly/neuros16.jpg
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v15/Schwilly/neuros14.jpg
http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v15/Schwilly/neuros15.jpg
someone turn IMG code On in this forum :-P
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Edited by - Schwilly on 07/06/2004 6:25:45 PM
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Schwilly
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Posted - 05/26/2004 : 03:24:31 AM
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is there 2.XX firmware around where the backlight WILL NOT stay on all the time with a DC input?
Is this in the works for future firmware?
This would be golden, otherwise!
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Schwilly
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Posted - 05/26/2004 : 04:38:38 AM
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I am very happy with the results so far.
Recording a WAV, I am up to 1h 45m and the voltage is still hanging around 409, varying between 406-410.
More to come
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Schwilly
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Posted - 05/26/2004 : 08:52:30 AM
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The final running time was 5h 30m
This was recording a 16/44.1 wav with a 9.6V 1.6A external RC pack.
At around 4:45:00 I noticed the voltage drop dramatically, from 405 down to 380. This seems to be the point where the RC pack ran out of juice and the internal was on it's own. It then continued to recorder to 5:30:00 (all the bars were gone), but I stopped it shortly after to save the wav from the dreaded "shut down."
This way I could check the have for continuity, to see if it's adept and making seamless recordings.
Lemme know if this seems like something you guys would like. I know it only gives about 2 hours over the standard record time (2.5-4 hours is what people told me), however, that can mean the world in clutch situations.
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Chameleon
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Posted - 05/26/2004 : 12:00:23 PM
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I've recorded for more than 4 hours at a time...
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!' |
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Schwilly
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Posted - 05/26/2004 : 4:49:25 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Chameleon
I've recorded for more than 4 hours at a time...
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'
Recording in 16/44.1, with just the internal battery, what time exactly could you get?
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booman
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Posted - 05/27/2004 : 9:27:04 PM
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cool!
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Yono
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Posted - 06/16/2004 : 7:41:04 PM
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Has anyone tested this with a dead battery? I doubt it would last long since you can't turn off the backlight but still some time I'd guess.
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Schwilly
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Posted - 06/17/2004 : 06:16:17 AM
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Originally posted by Yono
Has anyone tested this with a dead battery? I doubt it would last long since you can't turn off the backlight but still some time I'd guess.
-- 'Artificial Intelligence is No Replacement for Natural Stupidity'
I'll drain my battery tonight and run a test tomorrow. I did this last weekend with a battery pack, but it wasn't a full pack.
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Schwilly
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Posted - 06/18/2004 : 5:45:11 PM
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ok, after COMPLETELY draining the onboard battery, I proceeded with the test. Using one External 1600mAh RC Battery pack. I plugged it into the Neuros and let it run using MIFI, because that supposedly takes more juice. It ran for 10.5 hours without inturruption before it died.
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NC-17
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Posted - 06/18/2004 : 5:57:19 PM
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| Wowz0rs! That's not bad at all :) |
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Schwilly
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Schwilly
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Posted - 07/06/2004 : 6:26:40 PM
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also, make sure any bare wires are wrapped in electrical tape so that you don't make things go BOOOOOOM.
I recently had a battery fry because of my stupidity
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VipFREAK
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Posted - 07/17/2004 : 05:10:57 AM
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Hmm... great idea, can a batt also be fashioned to power say a laptop??
I guess I don't have batt life issues because I've been staying in the 401-398 range for the 20gb HD and 247-249 for the 128mb backpack? Is this good? |
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liebowij
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Posted - 07/18/2004 : 12:37:11 AM
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Anyone with a reallllly long runtime home-made battery pack for the 20gig neuros? if so, what are your times? Also what batteries and cables are necesary and what are the final costs from rat-shack?
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liebowij
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Posted - 07/18/2004 : 12:40:22 AM
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Also anyone got that battery pack from soundprofessionals? What are the stats on that?
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Q-W-Y
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Posted - 07/20/2004 : 10:22:28 AM
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quote:
Originally posted by liebowij
Also anyone got that battery pack from soundprofessionals? What are the stats on that?
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It's VERY overpriced . ... alike all SP products
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Red Dub
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Posted - 08/11/2004 : 3:10:07 PM
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| Does anybody have a similar solution for those of us in Europe? |
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Red Dub
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Posted - 08/12/2004 : 3:49:45 PM
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quote:
Originally posted by Yono
quote:
Originally posted by Schwilly
another powering option
http://www.soundprofessionals.com/cgi-bin/gold/item/SP-NEUROS-FBP
These guys ship worldwide.
By my reckoning, I would need to spend about $89 for the battery pack, $59 for the charger, and then I'd have to buy a voltage converter, making the total around $200. Are there less expensive options? |
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Q-W-Y
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Posted - 08/15/2004 : 4:38:32 PM
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By my reckoning, I would need to spend about $89 for the battery pack, $59 for the charger, and then I'd have to buy a voltage converter, making the total around $200. Are there less expensive options?
I have done batterypack myself. It's cheaper, and indeed better.
You will need>
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Holder of batteries with soldering outlets (AA)
http://eos.ges.cz/cenikweb/L/HAL8XUM3.jpg (photo of clip version)
8 pcs of SANYO NiMH 2100 or 2300mAh accu (AA) (Sanyo are IMO the best accumulators with good price)
http://eos.ges.cz/cenikweb/L/HR3U230.jpg
And the low voltage DC power connector to your Neuros..
http://eos.ges.cz/cenikweb/B/HS10.jpg
Price converted from CZK: 3,17 EUR
If you don't have any charger, I recommend MW4798. (It's controlled with microprocessor. Charging current is 800mA. Charger is supplied from independent adaptor 230/12V. Set contains cable for joining adaptor/charger to socket of a cigarette lighter in a car. )
http://eos.ges.cz/cenikweb/K/MW4798.jpg
You can look for detail prices (in CZK) at www.ges.cz (english version) Prices might be lower in your counry...
I will post photos of my battery pack soon.
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Edited by - Q-W-Y on 08/15/2004 4:56:57 PM |
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