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degauss
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Posted - 06/09/2004 : 11:52:34 AM
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I just discovered this site http://www.allofmp3.com/index2.shtml.
They have many very cool features, including Online Encoding. What OE lets you do is encode the music you download in a format of your choice at the bitrate of your choice. They support lot's of formats, including Ogg-Vorbis. While it is a pay service, the pay model is very cool. You pay by the megabyte ($0.01USD), in advance. So, on the average a full CD costs about $0.60. And, unlike P2P, artists get royalties.
So, now there's no way you won't be able to afford to fill your Neuros 
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Yono
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Posted - 06/09/2004 : 3:14:40 PM
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When clicking on the link, remember to delete the period at the end.
-- 'Artificial Intelligence is No Replacement for Natural Stupidity' |
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xercist
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Posted - 06/09/2004 : 3:40:01 PM
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I just recently found this site, too. It's pretty nice, overall. With their prices ($.01 / meg) and their location (Russia), I suspect that they don't actually pay artists for the music. Someone please correct me if I'm mistaken.
The OE mode is quite cool, and I can get my oggs encoded with q5 like I like them. They use vorbis 1.0.1, though I'd prefer gt3b2. Also, their metadata is a bit weak. It's almost always correct, but they only add artist, title, and album tags, so being a stickler for complete metadata, I have to go add date, genre, replaygain, tracknumber, and arranger/version if applicable. And any non-ascii characters are stripped or turned into ascii, so I have to go get the UTF-8 metadata and replace it.
Crazy Russians! |
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noiz
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Posted - 06/09/2004 : 8:38:06 PM
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also, i looked around on the site and they have some free albums you can download in mp3 format at 128 kb/s. some of the artists are sex pistols, bob dylan, john lennon, and the rolling stones. this site does look pretty cool. im probably going to get a gig of files for $10 and see if it is really that great.
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degauss
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Posted - 06/10/2004 : 01:39:20 AM
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I researched it and they are certified by the Russian Organization for Multimedia & Digital Systems (ROMS).
ROMS is a member of CISAC (www.cisac.org) - the International confederation of authors and composers societies. ROMS manages intellectual rights in the Russian Federation. All third party distributors licensed by ROMS are required to pay a portion of the revenue to the ROMS. ROMS in turn, is obligated to pay most of that money (aside from small portion it needs for operating expenses) to artists. Both Russian and foreign.
You can find out more here http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm#Is%20Allofmp3%20legal?
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8thNote
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Posted - 06/10/2004 : 06:58:54 AM
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YEAH! I've been using them for about a year now and love it! I think I've spent about $40 on the site and have nearly 100 CDs from it. They have a great soundtrack selection and update about twice a week.
Being a classical music fan, I enjoy their huge list of this genre and have enjoyed buying composers' entire symphonic works for just a couple dollars.
Yes, a lot of their older tracks were missing track numbers, but I haven't had problems with the newer downloads. A strange thing the site does is puts the album name in the artist field, the artist often with the track name, and I think the genre ocassionally ends up in the album field. Or something like that.
I was also going to recommend Museekster's review but that's already been done.
I use this site much more than ClubMP3Search or whatever it's called.
Daniel J. Lewis |
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noiz
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 4:10:48 PM
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i have just finished downloading about a gig worth of music from this site and its pretty good. with the free downloads i got from them it was only going about 25 kb/s but when i was acually paying for q5 ogg files it would download 70-120 kb/s. they have a great selection but the only thing i dont like is that for genre they have put unknown for all of the songs i have downloaded. other than that this is a great service.
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Chameleon
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 7:08:13 PM
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I think if they get enough requests/complaints from their paying customers that they would do something about the lacking metadata.
I plan to use the service soon and I'd like the metadata to be complete and accurate. I'll be sure to complain to them if it's not.
-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!' |
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xercist
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Posted - 06/15/2004 : 8:39:43 PM
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Alright, here are my problems with allofmp3's metadata:
- All 's are changed to `s
- All extended-ascii (not to mention unicode) is dropped
- Often punctuation is dropped, like a ? or ! at the end of a title
- All albums must have the same artist tag, so if it's a multi-artist compilation, the artist tag is set to the arranger name (or the album name if there's no arranger), and the title tag is set to "artist - title"
- When downloading directly, tracknumber and date tags are missing. When using their "explorer" application, they're both added twice (date=2000, year=2000, tracknumber=01, track=01)
- No genre tag/s
The metadata is better than you'll find in random files on various filesharing networks, but I still give it the same treatment: look up the album on multiple web sources and check every character and tag. I'm picky about my metadata. In fact, I don't mind the problems with allofmp3 because I accept that they could never satisfy me and I'd end up editing it all anyway. |
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Zap!
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Posted - 06/16/2004 : 09:15:21 AM
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Wow, thanks for this awesome link. I'm not big on buying albums online because I just like to have the actual physical CD around in case something happens.
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If you really want to set the metadata quickly and easily, get Foobar2000 music player. It has a feature in the Special version that allows you to masstag by album quickly and easily.
Follow these steps: Hilight the album you wish to tag. Right click somewhere in the hilighted area, go to 'freedb' and click on 'Get tags". From there, it will attempt to find the album listing from freedb. At the top of the masstagger window, there will be a dropdown box with all the listings of the album. Click on 'preview' to review what metadata will be set. Click on 'Tag files' and everything will be done! |
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degauss
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Posted - 06/17/2004 : 3:50:47 PM
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quote: Originally posted by Zap!
Wow, thanks for this awesome link. I'm not big on buying albums online because I just like to have the actual physical CD around in case something happens.
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If you back up your download to a CD then you have a physical copy just in case something happens.
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Don
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Posted - 06/17/2004 : 6:26:42 PM
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quote: Originally posted by degauss
I researched it and they are certified by the Russian Organization for Multimedia & Digital Systems (ROMS).
ROMS is a member of CISAC (www.cisac.org) - the International confederation of authors and composers societies. ROMS manages intellectual rights in the Russian Federation. All third party distributors licensed by ROMS are required to pay a portion of the revenue to the ROMS. ROMS in turn, is obligated to pay most of that money (aside from small portion it needs for operating expenses) to artists. Both Russian and foreign.
You can find out more here http://www.museekster.com/allofmp3faq.htm#Is%20Allofmp3%20legal?
This little disclaimer appears on the site:
You can legally buy/download mp3-songs from this site if it does not breaks the law the national legislation of the country in which you will be during that moment.
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None of us was driving, we was all in the back seat. One way street? But I was only going one way!
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Joseph
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Posted - 06/20/2004 : 4:47:38 PM
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| I agree this is an awesome site. I have download over $100 worth of albums from it. But to really take full advantage you MUST download the allofmp3 explorer program. It allows you to customize the naming and directory hiearchy convention of your files as well as download whole albums at a time. Also with the newest version and you can search and D/L the songs all from the program. It ain't as pretty as i-tunes, but it gets the job done. |
Edited by - Joseph on 06/20/2004 4:48:43 PM |
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noiz
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Posted - 06/20/2004 : 4:51:26 PM
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quote: I agree this is an awesome site. I have download over $100 worth of albums from it. But to really take full advantage you MUST download the allofmp3 explorer program. It allows you to customize the naming and directory hiearchy convention of your files as well as download whole albums at a time. Also with the newest version and you can search and D/L the songs all from the program. It ain't as pretty as i-tunes, but it gets the job done.
the program is pretty nice. has some little bugs but nothing to big. love being able to dl whole albums for about a dollar or most of the time even less. plus i can encode them all ogg q5!
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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 06/21/2004 : 9:22:57 PM
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Is it really legal in this country? The notice posted above says for use inside Russia. The music cartels have notoriously different costs per-country.
Also, how do you prove you bought the file? Print a recipt? Give me a minute with the HTML... I've got all the recipits I want, woo hoo! How do I prove I bought the CD? I have it here. Someone bought it, probably me. (And if it's in the box in my garage, where all my CDs are now, no one is playing it, so I can be playing my digital copies.)
It sounds too good to be true... therefore it probably is.
(Not to say that it isn't tons better than just stealing them, or that the artists get any less at $1/disc than they do from the regular sales, but I can't tell if it actually is legal. Who could? Do we have a lawyer in the audience?) |
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Chameleon
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 12:16:53 AM
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The RIAA makes their own rules, then lobby for laws to back them up.
I feel no remorse even if they aren't getting their cut. As long as the artists are compensated, which it appears this site is doing, I feel just in patronizing them.
In a global economy, price fixing cannot work. The RIAA will need to either evolve or be evicted from the global market place.
I believe the later will occur in due time either way.
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8thNote
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 08:29:15 AM
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quote: It sounds too good to be true...
Does it? Yes, it's great, but "too good to be true" would be if the music was free and had every CD you would ever want. This service is not that.
A lot of people were deceived into thinking the iTunes music store was almost too good to be true. We now know that to be quite the opposite (especially considering albums are usually costing the same as CDs).
Daniel J. Lewis |
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brewer13210
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 10:01:40 AM
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So, has anyone who has used these guys had any suspicious credit card charges appearing on your accounts? The whole concept of providing on-demand encoding is pretty cool, and although they don’t seem to have any classical or jazz, there are more that a few albums I’d like to pick up. I’m just not wild about giving my credit card number to a company based in Russia.
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8thNote
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 10:06:27 AM
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quote: So, has anyone who has used these guys had any suspicious credit card charges appearing on your accounts?
I made my first charge of $5 directly with my card and later discovered I was charged $5.16 or something small like that. But I also had a mysterious $1 "bonus credit" to my AllofMP3 account. Since the amount was so small, I didn't want to make a big deal out of it, especially since they probably already found the error and credited the $1 to fix it. That's almost two free CDs, so I didn't complain. :)
I now just use PayPal to add credit to my account. This provides an additional level of security because a PayPal charge gives AllofMP3 the money only, not my card information that they could mess up.
PayPal would of course let you transfer from your bank account as well.
So far, I've bought 3 gigs from this place and I love it!
Daniel J. Lewis |
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Zap!
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 12:31:37 PM
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| The biggest problem that I have found with this system is that not every song is the full length. Take Lisa Loeb's song "Dance With the Angels" for instance. The song should be a few minutes long but it is only 6 seconds when I downloaded it! Other than that, I love the service. j Allofmp3 Express is a beautiful program, in my opinion. |
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8thNote
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Posted - 06/22/2004 : 12:58:59 PM
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Six seconds? Are you logged in? Are you purchasing the music?
I'm a classical/soundtrack fan and all the 3 gigs I've downloaded were full-length and without encoding errors.
Daniel J. Lewis |
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