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airberger
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Posted - 07/29/2004 :  2:49:38 PM  Show Profile  Visit airberger's Homepage
I just found an online source for what I believe to be the Neuros HD battery. The cylindrical 18650 Li-ion battery is available in both 2000mA and 2400mA versions at $24 for 4 and $40 for 4 respectively.

http://www.batteryspace.com

FWIW. Opening your Neuros voids the warranty and all that.

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Posted - 07/29/2004 :  5:30:20 PM  Show Profile  Send webkid an AOL message
Ooo! I might have to stockpile some of these. Jeff?

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Chameleon
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Posted - 07/29/2004 :  6:19:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message
50 of the 2000mAh Cells are only $290!

-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

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derobert
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Posted - 07/30/2004 :  04:26:09 AM  Show Profile  Send derobert an AOL message  Send derobert an ICQ Message
quote:
Originally posted by airberger

FWIW. Opening your Neuros voids the warranty and all that.

Title 15 USC, Section 2302(c)

Where does this silly "opening it voides the warranty" come from, anyway?

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Chameleon
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Posted - 07/30/2004 :  12:23:36 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by derobert

quote:
Originally posted by airberger

FWIW. Opening your Neuros voids the warranty and all that.

Title 15 USC, Section 2302(c)

Where does this silly "opening it voides the warranty" come from, anyway?

Standard warranty disclaimer.
Present in the 3rd paragraph of the Neuros Warrany page.

Edit: Specifically in this text:
"This warranty is void if product is altered, modified, or if any parts or service covered by this warranty are furnished by anyone other than NEUROS or its Authorized Warranty Station."

-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

Edited by - Chameleon on 07/30/2004 12:24:14 PM

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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 07/30/2004 :  3:06:21 PM  Show Profile
Why not just let DI do it? They can properly recycle the old batteries that way.

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Chameleon
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Posted - 07/30/2004 :  6:57:55 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message
Some of us would rather not be without their Neuros for that long.
Also, my warranty has already expired, so I have nothing to lose.

-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

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Posted - 07/31/2004 :  12:09:33 AM  Show Profile  Send webkid an AOL message
Any many electronics geeks who are replacing their own batteries know where to dispose of them, too.

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gour
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Posted - 12/15/2004 :  11:05:52 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by airberger

I just found an online source for what I believe to be the Neuros HD battery. The cylindrical 18650 Li-ion battery is available in both 2000mA and 2400mA versions at $24 for 4 and $40 for 4 respectively.

http://www.batteryspace.com


Has anyone replaced their battery with those sold at the above source

I'm from Croatia and user-replaceability is very important item on my Neuros-buying check list

Besides that, the 18650 batteries are sold in 4-pack and that would be a perfect fit for my needs since my old Psion Netbook battery pack uses 3 of them

Sincerely,
Gour

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MadDogPlatinum
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Posted - 01/20/2005 :  11:08:36 AM  Show Profile
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Any many electronics geeks who are replacing their own batteries know where to dispose of them, too.


Not too tough...IIRC, your average Wal-Mart photocenter has a "Recycle Batteries Here" cardboard box that you can toss them into.

Mike H.

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SinisterTengu
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Posted - 01/28/2005 :  01:41:41 AM  Show Profile  Send SinisterTengu an AOL message
Which version normally comes in a Neuros, the 2000mA or the 2400mA?

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Matthias Halibrand
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Posted - 01/28/2005 :  10:49:51 AM  Show Profile
Don't know by heart, but you will be good with the bigger ones even if they usually use the smaller ones.

Matthias

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butterbean
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Posted - 01/28/2005 :  12:44:14 PM  Show Profile
2000mAh, 3.7V, Li-ion

At least, that's what I "suspect" the battery would say on it...

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Matthias Halibrand
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Posted - 01/28/2005 :  4:50:04 PM  Show Profile
Speaking of changing the battery-packs. You shouldn't solder the wires to the battery. It is not good for the batterys lifespan to heat it up by soldering something to it. Professionnally it is pointed, at least that's what we say in German.
It's like a needle which is very very hot, and which comes with a high pressure and for only a piece of a second and points the contacts together. This way the cells are not harmed due to to high temperature.
Just a tip I got from an expert I used to work with. The best way to do is press the contacts together and then fixate them with a little hotglue. This will sustain vibrations and will keep the contacts together without damaging the batterie-cells!

Matthias

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gildea
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Posted - 02/09/2005 :  12:11:12 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by airberger

I just found an online source for what I believe to be the Neuros HD battery. The cylindrical 18650 Li-ion battery is available in both 2000mA and 2400mA versions at $24 for 4 and $40 for 4 respectively.

http://www.batteryspace.com

FWIW. Opening your Neuros voids the warranty and all that.



Can you add more than one battery (in series?) to the Neuros?

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Yono
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Posted - 02/09/2005 :  3:15:22 PM  Show Profile  Send Yono an AOL message  Send Yono an ICQ Message  Click to see Yono's MSN Messenger address  Send Yono a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by gildea

quote:
Originally posted by airberger

I just found an online source for what I believe to be the Neuros HD battery. The cylindrical 18650 Li-ion battery is available in both 2000mA and 2400mA versions at $24 for 4 and $40 for 4 respectively.

http://www.batteryspace.com

FWIW. Opening your Neuros voids the warranty and all that.



Can you add more than one battery (in series?) to the Neuros?



You might be able to, but it probably wouldn't fit into the backpack.

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Don
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Posted - 02/11/2005 :  06:17:28 AM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by gildea

Can you add more than one battery (in series?) to the Neuros?



Why? If one is capable of running the Neuros then unless it has some fancy regulation to make good use of the extra voltage, the energy from the second battery will just be dissapated as heat.


-Don

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Matthias Halibrand
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Posted - 02/11/2005 :  10:24:32 AM  Show Profile
You shouldn't add it in series, since this will only result in more heat, if you are unlucky it will damage your precious. But you definetely can add it parallel to double (triple, whatever) the capacity. But it's possible that the charging wouldn't work anymore. I would have to look at the specs for these to say for certain, but it could be possible.

Matthias

P.S.: If you are willing to mod your Neuros for longer battery-life and you don't care about a bigger device, you can detach the battery inside, make a hole into your Neuros and use those battery packs you can find within the RC community. There are some which are usuable with very low power-consumptions, and ones for high power consumptions. Use the first ones! Of course you need to make a few mods to the cables!

Liebe und Frieden ...

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pritterjr(at)socal.rr.com
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Posted - 02/23/2005 :  11:49:07 PM  Show Profile
Hi everyone, In changing the battery in the hard drive unit, one thing to watch out for is the Neuros battery has a small circuit borad in series with the negative lead. (for charging limit or temp?)
The 18650 battery does not have it. It is possible to remove the board and install on the new battery, but it not for the faint of heart. Best to let Neuros change it for about the same money or get the battery from them. Hope this keeps someone from getting into trouble.
Phil

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unknown_lamer
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Posted - 03/03/2005 :  2:09:40 PM  Show Profile  Visit unknown_lamer's Homepage  Send unknown_lamer an AOL message  Send unknown_lamer an ICQ Message
As an experiment I got the 2400mAh version. I was able to cut the two solder points on each of the sides of the Neuros battery to get it off and put it onto the new battery. Problem is that it won't charge the new battery. I don't have any electrical testing equipment so I don't know if any current is flowing across it or not.

It still works with the real Neuros battery. Any ideas as to why it wouldn't work with the new battery? I plugged it in and left it overnight headless and then tried again the next night with the head on and it still has no juice in it.

Worst case is that I'm out $10 so it isn't a big deal (I could probably find something else lying around here to use it ... hrm) but I'd like to get the 2400mAh battery working (my Neuros battery is almost two years old now and is worn out from recording lectures and being drained entirely every day). Has anyone purchased the 2000mAh model and had that work?

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unknown_lamer
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Posted - 03/03/2005 :  2:17:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit unknown_lamer's Homepage  Send unknown_lamer an AOL message  Send unknown_lamer an ICQ Message
...And I just lit the voltage regular (or whatever that circuit board is) on fire.

Uh, accidentally attaching it to the battery backwards was mistake. So, does anyone know what the part number is? :-)

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