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LadyGeek
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 Posted - 09/14/2005 : 1:01:04 PM
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I want to place a few notes in this topic, because I believe that in addition to its function as a personal use device and possibly a business device, that it might have a very solid future in the academic market.
I'm currently a graduate student in the Anthropology Department, and we use a lot of video. They show us video in class, and would show us even more video if they weren't so fumble-fingered with technology. Much of our extended research is videotaped and in cases where we need to discuss the taped images with someone, it's an absolute bear to get the vid in a format that everyone's computers or DVDs will love.
Anthropologists also like to show up at conferences with video to show folks, and it can be very boring to sit in a session and watch them dither with the video equipment for 10 minutes out of a 20 minute session.
I know we aren't the only academics who could or would use this. I'm going to play with the Neuros over the next week or so and let some of my profs get their hands on it... see what they make of this device. But I think you have a good market in academe... and, of course, it's something you can market to us slacker students. I recorded off a tv show last night and sat in the Union, eating my lunch and blissfully ignoring the noise and chaos. The screen is large enough for my very poor eyesight -- and small enough so you aren't showing the entire Union that you're sitting there with a very sober look on your face, watching Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons! |
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JoeBorn
Neuros Audio Team
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 04:44:25 AM
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Actually, it's a great idea, I eagerly await the feedback you get. WE could potentially even do some kind of academic discount program or something.
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Originally posted by LadyGeek
I want to place a few notes in this topic, because I believe that in addition to its function as a personal use device and possibly a business device, that it might have a very solid future in the academic market.
I'm currently a graduate student in the Anthropology Department, and we use a lot of video. They show us video in class, and would show us even more video if they weren't so fumble-fingered with technology. Much of our extended research is videotaped and in cases where we need to discuss the taped images with someone, it's an absolute bear to get the vid in a format that everyone's computers or DVDs will love.
Anthropologists also like to show up at conferences with video to show folks, and it can be very boring to sit in a session and watch them dither with the video equipment for 10 minutes out of a 20 minute session.
I know we aren't the only academics who could or would use this. I'm going to play with the Neuros over the next week or so and let some of my profs get their hands on it... see what they make of this device. But I think you have a good market in academe... and, of course, it's something you can market to us slacker students. I recorded off a tv show last night and sat in the Union, eating my lunch and blissfully ignoring the noise and chaos. The screen is large enough for my very poor eyesight -- and small enough so you aren't showing the entire Union that you're sitting there with a very sober look on your face, watching Rocky and Bullwinkle cartoons!
jborn (at) neurosaudio.com |
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LadyGeek
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 08:30:19 AM
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Got to show it off to the Journal Club yesterday... and there was MUCH envy (snicker, cackle, teehee.) The grad students didn't seem to have much trouble with the interface (or, rather, no more than usual. Our grad students range in age from late 20's to 60's and are about equally divided in gender.)
The husband hooked it up to the 61 inch tv he WOOTed a couple of weeks ago, and we did get good playback there. Pretty darn amazing. I haven't tried it out on conference equipment nor have I tried it on computers other than my little laptop.
Academe runs on Powerpoint presentations... if you can't do Powerpoint, you're considered a dinosaur. For my next trick, I'm going to see about hosting and running Powerpoint files from the Neuros. The biggest issue that I see is that many computers will be older models (some of our labs are still on Win2k) and are locked against students installing devices.
With recent budget cuts, universities are scrambling for money and their infrastructure isn't exactly cutting edge in all departments. The research assistants in Anthropology, for example, are using Pentium 800mhz machines. Slooooooooooooooooowwwww :P
I think the selling point could be that this device could be a cost-effective replacement for multiple devices -- the vcr, thumb drives, and CDs that are in common use in universities. |
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guttrhead(at)gmail.com
Posting Mania
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 09:42:20 AM
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| could a powerpoint viewer be built into the 442, that way you wouldn't even need to hook it to a computer to show off the slides. |
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djmv(at)yahoo.com
Posting is for Closers
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 10:44:28 AM
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How about saving your ppt slides as images and using the image viewer to display them? You could also try to save the ppt presentation as a video, but then you lose the granular control of when slides progress.
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LadyGeek
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 12:35:25 PM
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Originally posted by guttrhead(at)gmail.com
could a powerpoint viewer be built into the 442, that way you wouldn't even need to hook it to a computer to show off the slides.
I don't think that would be useful in the academic market. The text would be too small to read, since we use a lot of charts to demonstrate that we did the research. Without the legends, the charts are just interesting designs. |
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pete7919
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 12:43:29 PM
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I don't think that would be useful in the academic market. The text would be too small to read, since we use a lot of charts to demonstrate that we did the research. Without the legends, the charts are just interesting designs.
You could hook it up to a projector or TV to show. |
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guttrhead(at)gmail.com
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Posted - 09/15/2005 : 1:31:37 PM
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| Yeah, the tv hookup is what I was going for. |
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FJ
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Posted - 09/23/2005 : 5:06:44 PM
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If you have any other suggestions, let us know.
Johan
Neuros
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gour
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Posted - 09/25/2005 : 02:55:23 AM
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If you have any other suggestions, let us know.
Johan
Neuros
FJ
Hi!
I just posted similar question in 'slide-show' thread (see: http://www.neurosaudio.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6479), i.e. I'm interested in using 442 as a laptop replacement - prepare slide-show presentation on desktop pc, transfer material to 442, hook it to video-projector and have a presentation (not a business one, but in education) 
How much is 442 convenient for such a scenario 
I'd very much like the idea of buying 442 instead of laptop and be able to hold a slide-show presentation.
For video presentation, it seems there are no obstacles, but I'm interested for a slide-shows where one has to have control of manually changing slides forward/backward etc.
Any experiences and/or advices?
Sincerely,
Gour
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JEFFH
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Posted - 09/25/2005 : 06:43:57 AM
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Originally posted by gour
Hi!
I just posted similar question in 'slide-show' thread (see: http://www.neurosaudio.com/community/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=6479), i.e. I'm interested in using 442 as a laptop replacement - prepare slide-show presentation on desktop pc, transfer material to 442, hook it to video-projector and have a presentation (not a business one, ut in education)
How much is 442 convenient for such a scenario
I'd very much like the idea of buying 442 instead of laptop and be able to hold a slide-show presentation.
For video presentation, it seems there are no obstacles, but I'm interested for a slide-shows where one has to have control of manually changing slides forward/backward etc.
Any experiences and/or advices?
Sincerely,
Gour
The current firmware does not allow any real user control over the slideshow. You can turn it on or off thru the setup menu and thats it.
It's a very basic slideshow mode that displays a photo and then moves onto the next after a fixed interval of time.
what you can do is manually select the photo/slide you want to display looking at the 442 screen and then switch to TV output mode so the whole room could see it. When your ready for the next slide you would need to return to the photo/slide list and select the next you want displayed and select it and so on.
Not really Ideal for what you want but it should get it done.
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gour
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Posted - 09/27/2005 : 06:20:58 AM
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Originally posted by JEFFH
The current firmware does not allow any real user control over the slideshow. You can turn it on or off thru the setup menu and thats it.
It's a very basic slideshow mode that displays a photo and then moves onto the next after a fixed interval of time.
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what you can do is manually select the photo/slide you want to display looking at the 442 screen and then switch to TV output mode so the whole room could see it. When your ready for the next slide you would need to return to the photo/slide list and select the next you want displayed and select it and so on.
Not really Ideal for what you want but it should get it done.
Hmm...true. It's not really ideal...
I am looking for a pc-free presentation without the need to buy pc-free projector 'cause, mostly, for the price of pc-free projector one buy a 'normal' projector with a cheap laptop, which is, imho a better deal 
otoh, does availability of linux-based firmware would make it possible to have some sort of pdf-viewer (e.g. xpdf) running and displaying full-screen pdf presentation.
It would mean, one can prepare his/her presentation of desktop PC and bring it on 442-device ready to connect to whatever video-projector and have nice ability to move through slide-show presentation by using next/prev etc. buttons
What do you think?
Is there a market for it?
Sincerely,
Gour
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JEFFH
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Posted - 09/27/2005 : 09:08:24 AM
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Originally posted by gour
otoh, does availability of linux-based firmware would make it possible to have some sort of pdf-viewer (e.g. xpdf) running and displaying full-screen pdf presentation.
It would mean, one can prepare his/her presentation of desktop PC and bring it on 442-device ready to connect to whatever video-projector and have nice ability to move through slide-show presentation by using next/prev etc. buttons
What do you think?
Is there a market for it?
Sincerely,
Gour
When Neuros releases the new 442 hardware platform that support Linux based Open source firmware many possibilities should open up for custom applications for the 442 provided by programming skills of the OS community.
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FJ
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Posted - 09/29/2005 : 6:16:31 PM
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If anybody is interested, there is another thread talking about a developer board.
Johan
Neuros
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FJ
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Posted - 12/08/2005 : 09:58:47 AM
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I am interested in getting more feedback and comment on this subject.
Johan
Neuros
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442 and the Academic Market
