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« on: January 22, 2009, 02:18:05 pm »

Hello,

I remember there being a site that showed you how to stick a larger hdd into the neuros 1 (up to 100 gig or 250 or something). Anyone know where that page is or how to perform the operation? I still have my lovely 20 gigger neuros 1, but would like some more storage.

Thank you for your time.
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2009, 09:06:42 am »

I do not believe that the step-by step instructions are still around.  However, the replacement process is not that difficult.

Take out the two Torx #8 screws from next to the power jack.
Lift from that end and separate the halves (careful, there are clips on the other end keeping the top together.)
Remove the screws holding the board to the bottom of the backpack.
Turn the unit over and lift the bottom off the HDD.  (Do not lift the board out of the bottom, this could bend pins.)
Slide the HDD off the pins, take the barrier off the bottom (a sheet of plastic or paper glued to the bottom of the drive)
Put barrier on new drive, reverse process.

Voila.
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« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2009, 07:09:57 pm »

You also forgot to tell the person to get the Neuros into diagnostic mode so you can format the drive itself..  (I have had better luck letting the neuros format the drive the way it wants to rather than formatting it in windows with Fat32 as the PC translates the drive geometry a little different than the Neuros hardware...

Anyways, just let the neuros format the drive and copy your music over, and that's pretty much it.

I believe if memory serves you hold buttons 1 & 5 and press play.
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« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2009, 08:50:26 am »

Oops.   Roll Eyes
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2009, 12:24:25 pm »

Thank you so much for the answers! Nice to know there are still people around talking about the ol mp3 player.

I have two more questions that I should of asked at first but forgot.

I realize I have to use a laptop HD.. any special kind? Not too keen on laptop hdd and don't know if they come in different shapes and sizes and formats and magical dust.

Number 2, is there a size limit? Can I stick a 500 gigger in there or does the neuros top off somewhere and then go haywire?

and 3, what would I need to do to transfer my data from the original hard drive? I still use Neuros Sync Manager.

Thanks again for the replies. Gonna start shopping around once I can get a few answers.

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« Reply #5 on: February 05, 2009, 01:46:24 pm »

1) Any 2.5" IDE drive should work.  Just keep in mind that different drives draw different amounts of power, and therefore can change your battery life pretty drastically.

2) I don't know of any size issues, but I do remember hearing drives as large as 300GB work fine.

3) That's more than your two questions...

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Okay, fine...  If you're still using NSM, just sync the same songs back after the drive is formatted.  If you would rather not do that, you can just grab all the files off the current HDD, then put them on the new HDD and run NDBM to re-build the database.  I'm not sure if you could go back to using NSM after that or not, though...  (I never did use NSM myself.)
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« Reply #6 on: February 05, 2009, 02:06:43 pm »

Ha, love typing tired. I ask for two questions, then have 5? Nice going.

Thanks again!

Guess I'll open it up and check out the drive to see if it has any indications of what power it will draw or anything like that. Now to find my torx drive......
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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2009, 08:47:58 am »

Normally the power draw is listed by the manufacturer on a spec sheet on their website.  It's not so important to match the power draw to the drive that's in there, just if you have a few options, keep power draw in mind.
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« Reply #8 on: August 07, 2009, 12:40:50 pm »

Well as far as drives go (and yea, I am beating this 'ol dead horse)  You need to use a 2.5" laptop drive that is a ATA/PATA drive NOT A SATA DRIVE  and no larger than 120GB as the Drive geometrey that's programmed in the Neuros Hardware is only 32-bit thus limiting you to 127GB per drive/partition.

As far as I know if there are multipule partitions on the drive the Neuros will only read form the first one.

On that note for music and such, I use a little Java app called "Neuros DataBase Manager"  or NDBM for short..  It's a "*.jar" file so if you have a Java Runtime installed it should run fine on *ANY* platform that uses Java and can access the files on the Neuros Drive (like ...eww....a MAC)


If you know of anyone that's used a 300GB in that little guy, let me know what you can find out as far as what they had to do to get the Neuros to see the FULL capacity..  I am interested..

In the mean time I am going to save my money and look into getting a extremely low-powered SSD that's around 80GB for my Neuros.
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