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« on: January 19, 2006, 06:06:45 PM »

Dear Neuros 442 gamma group:

We wanted to give you some exciting news about a change in the 442 upgrade program and also provide you with an update on the open-source 442 (what we call the 442v2 internally) and on our new, open-source product platform in general.  We will start with the update.

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A great deal of work and progress is happening behind the scenes but not hidden from view.  We encourage you to follow the work, or even participate. You can see information posted about all our products on our wiki. For developers, you can participate to our Google group: Neuros DM 320, and get information from our http://open.neurostechnology.com/ site.

As many of you know we have three categories of Portable Media products at Neuros:  (i) Portable Media Player’s (the 442); (ii) Digital recorders (the MPEG-4 Recorders); and (iii) Digital Audio Computers (the Neuros MP3 players).  We are in the process of moving all of them to a single “Platform” based on a state-of-the-art multimedia chip called the DM-320 from Texas Instruments and a Linux-based operating system that we are developing specifically for the Platform.  

We chose the DM-320 chip because it is very powerful and designed specifically for multimedia and because we were able to negotiate licensing agreements that allow us to make much of the source code open to our community.  Of course, we chose Linux as the basis for the operating system because of its power and inherent openness.

The advantage to using the Platform for all three categories of product is that they will all be the same “under the hood”, which will allow them to work seamlessly together and for firmware enhancements made for one of the products to work for all of the products.  The Platform is also scalable and will enable us to introduce new products more quickly, as we won’t have to reinvent the wheel each time.  We are as anxious to get this Platform done as you are for us to complete it, but you can imagine that it’s a big job and how important it is to get it right.

We estimate that the general Platform work is about 75% complete.  We have our first development boards that we are debugging and beginning to use internally and will be releasing to our most technically skilled and involved community members in the coming weeks and estimate that the operating system is about 80% complete.    

In parallel with the above work on the Platform, we are also doing the work specific to the first two products that will come out on the Platform:  the 442v2 and the Recorder 3.  Right now, the 442v2 is furthest along, with the UI already designed and about 75% programmed and the basic hardware design about 85% complete.  If you want to see what the 442v2 UI will look like, you can see screen shots at http://open.neurostechnology.com/node/182 . We are just beginning the work specific to the Recorder 3 but this may be completed first due to its less complex software and hardware needs (no video screen, for example).  


New Expected Availability Date for 442v2 and Recorder 3 and New Upgrade Program  
We are now expecting to complete the 442v2 in Q2.  Many of you purchased the 442v1 in September with the expectation the 442v2 would be available in Q1 of 2006, a month or two before your 6-months no-questions-asked return ended.  We understand the importance of wanting to see the 442v2 before the expiration date of the Gamma program, and we also want to reward you for your patience.  For this reason, we have made two important changes to the 442 Gamma Program.

First, we will extend the no-questions-asked return policy until after the first public release of the 442v2 to give you the chance to evaluate it before deciding what to do.

Second, anyone who opts for the upgrade will receive a brand new 442v2 instead of a re-conditioned 442v1 as originally offered or get the unit at a discounted price as previously announced.

Here are the details of the upgrade:

1.   After announcement of the official date of the launch of the Neuros 442v2, current 442 owners will have 30 days to send their unit for an upgrade. A new 442, 40GBHDD with the new open source operating system, will be sent to you 4 to 5 weeks after the reception of the unit you currently own and the upgrade fee. Please note that owners of damaged units (obvious scratched on the screen or casing, missing parts etc…) will not be eligible for the upgrade or the full refund.
2.   The full refund offer will end 1 month after the official 442v2 launch date.  We will notify you at this time.
3.   Owners who decide to keep the current unit instead of upgrading will be able to purchase a new unit at a deep discounted price as originally announced.
4.   Major information on the 442v2 will be posted from time to time on the Neuros Forums as available.  You can follow the activities more closely at http://open.neurostechnology.com/ and www.theneuros.com


Thanks again for believing in us and for your great feedback.  We will be incorporating many of your suggestions out-of-the-box in the 442v2 and many others over time in new firmware upgrades after the product is launched.  Thanks also for your patience.  We’re building something lasting and special here and our doing our best to make sure you are rewarded many times over for it.

Best Regards,

Neuros team


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« Reply #1 on: January 19, 2006, 07:05:24 PM »

Thanks for the update! It's just what the doctor ordered.  

The new screens look good, too.
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« Reply #2 on: January 20, 2006, 07:35:41 AM »

Johan,
Thanks for the very detailed update.
Sounds very generous and mostly positive News with maybe the exception of the 4-5 week turn around on the upgrade.
I guess thats to be expected with the volume of units Neuros will have to process but how will we all survive without our 442 for 5 weeks.
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« Reply #3 on: January 20, 2006, 01:38:13 PM »

Sounds like a great upgrade offer. I feel much better knowing that the return policy will be extended.

I have a few questions.

What will need to go back for the upgrade? Just the unit itself, or everything that came in the original box? I ask because some companies tell customers to just send back the actual unit during product exchanges as opposed to all cables, etc.

One more silly question. I noticed amongst the early forum posts that several users mentioned the flimsy rubber plug cover had fallen off of their units. Would something this trivial affect the upgrade or full refund? I would imagine not, but had to ask. [Smiley]
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« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2006, 12:26:27 AM »

Am I the only one who can't open any of the open.neurostechnology.com pages?
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« Reply #5 on: January 21, 2006, 04:54:44 AM »

Talked to Mr. Born and apparently the site is have technical difficulties at the moment and they hope to have it fixed soon.

Keith Ashwood
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2006, 05:36:36 PM »

The problem with open.neurostechnology.com has been fixed.

And yes, you will need to send the 442 with all the accessories in the original 442 packaging for teh upgrade program.


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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2006, 10:39:52 PM »

oh goodie....i cant wait.  I love new products

When I was a kid my mom used to tell me that curiosity killed the cat...What she forgot to tell me was that it also discovered the cat, invented the lightbulb, and forged the Neuros
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« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2006, 12:26:27 PM »

quote:
Originally posted by FJ

Dear Neuros 442 gamma group:

Please note that owners of damaged units (obvious scratched on the screen or casing, missing parts etc…) will not be eligible for the upgrade or the full refund.
Best Regards,

Neuros team


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So, exactly what constitutes a damaged unit? Mine's in great shape, except the little rubber cover for the plugs ripped off the first day I had it. Does that make me inelligible for the upgrade?

Doesn't matter to me, as I plan to buy a new one and keep the old one anyway, but I don't believe that a ripped flimsy rubber cover should invalidate my unit. Does it?

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« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2006, 04:31:11 PM »

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So, exactly what constitutes a damaged unit? Mine's in great shape, except the little rubber cover for the plugs ripped off the first day I had it. Does that make me inelligible for the upgrade?

Doesn't matter to me, as I plan to buy a new one and keep the old one anyway, but I don't believe that a ripped flimsy rubber cover should invalidate my unit. Does it?

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 I think that, that has happened to everyone, and the unit still works w/o that rubber cover thing. I think they mean something that would cause the unit not ro function up to par, or like it used to.

I can't wait til the upgrade.

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« Reply #10 on: February 02, 2006, 08:33:26 PM »

Does anyone know how the upgrade plan will work for the gamma group?  Specifically, what I want to know is will I be able to return both unit(442v1 and 442v2) if the final version(442v2) doesn't implement the features that were requested(external speakers, bookmark, VGA recording, .srt subtitle support).  For me, the only improvements needed are to the video player portion but it's been forever and the only firmware so far address very few of our concerns.  What I want most is a crash-proof unit that plays all types of video files including mpeg2 files and .srt subtitle support.  The Green Screen of Death that I mention in the support forum has been duplicated by a couple of members on this forum and there hasn't been any progress at all.
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« Reply #11 on: February 04, 2006, 02:53:53 PM »

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Originally posted by raider73

I want to know is will I be able to return both unit(442v1 and 442v2) if the final version(442v2) doesn't implement the features that were requested(external speakers, bookmark, VGA recording, .srt subtitle support).


If I had to guess, I'd have to think that if you upgraded to the 442v2, the "30 day no questions asked return policy" would apply.  But if you decided to keep the v1 and buy a v2 at a discount, I think you'd be stuck with the v1.
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« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2006, 11:42:29 AM »

I from belgium and i bought the "neuros" in a warehouse called "ALDI". The name of my "neuros" is a "zolid 920". It's just the same as the neuros 442, same looks, same specs, same menu just another name.

So it's also the firts version v1. My question is if the new firmware that hopefully will come out out soon will work with the old v1 version of the "neuros 442". Or does the new software only works on v2 of the neuros 442. Because i live in belgium it would cost me a lot to send it to chicago.

t would be nice if i could just download the new software to my zolid 920 and work with new software.

Thanks, and  hopefully my wish will be completed.

greatz kristof (sorry for my english)

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« Reply #13 on: February 10, 2006, 06:27:36 AM »

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Originally posted by stoffie

So it's also the firts version v1. My question is if the new firmware that hopefully will come out out soon will work with the old v1 version of the "neuros 442". Or does the new software only works on v2 of the neuros 442. Because i live in belgium it would cost me a lot to send it to chicago.
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The Neuros 442V2 will be using a New hardware platform with a different video processor chip set.
The firmware for the Version 2 will not work on the current version hardware.
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« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2006, 08:17:18 PM »

I assume that missing original earphones will not disqualify me from the gamma program upgrade.

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