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Ghostrider
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Posted - 04/10/2004 :  1:36:07 PM  Show Profile  Send Ghostrider a Yahoo! Message
wanting to know which out there is the better OGG Ripper please let me know thank you

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Posted - 04/10/2004 :  9:03:06 PM  Show Profile
Better than what? Lots of people seem to like dbPoweramp if that helps.

Customer #2482 and #5863

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Posted - 04/12/2004 :  06:47:01 AM  Show Profile
I have tried CDex and DBPoweramp and both were fine. However, I like Audiograbber which is now free. You can get it at:

http://www.audiograbber.com-us.net/



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Posted - 04/25/2004 :  5:57:10 PM  Show Profile  Send K-Man666 an AOL message  Send K-Man666 an ICQ Message  Click to see K-Man666's MSN Messenger address  Send K-Man666 a Yahoo! Message
CDex is the only one to go: FREE software(as in speech) and REALLY easy to use (As far as you got ASPI drivers or a NT Core windows.)
You could also use EAC and Oggenc.
Use abcde on Linux(no joke).

Kaspar (The German Guy)

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dommel
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Posted - 05/04/2004 :  2:18:51 PM  Show Profile
winLAME also supports Ogg! Those guys had already conquered my heart with their completely free and superb MP3 encoder, and now it does Ogg as well!!

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bhcompy
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Posted - 05/23/2004 :  3:20:05 PM  Show Profile
quintessential player quinnware.com supports the newest ogg release, and the ripper is pretty good and has plenty of options. and free of course

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nanatn(at)hotmail.com
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Posted - 05/24/2004 :  8:45:02 PM  Show Profile
i use freerip 2.30. it does ogg and batch file conversions.
it's a bit slow, but it's free.
nathan notech

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natesneat2000
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Posted - 08/20/2004 :  11:20:20 AM  Show Profile
Speaking of Vorbis, is there anywhere I could find a calcualator to find how many songs I can fit on it at various quality levels... I'll be buying 40 gig model, and am debating to rip to vorbis quality 6 or 7, or maybe even 8. I know it's VBR, and there is no guarentee, but just something accurate to +/-100 songs?

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bhcompy
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Posted - 08/20/2004 :  9:21:51 PM  Show Profile
Well, at vorbis quality 7 I get between 205-225kbit compression. so you can multiply that out and divide by 8 to get your total kbytes

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natesneat2000
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Posted - 08/21/2004 :  7:22:02 PM  Show Profile
Thank you; I think I will rip with q 7 and CDEx.

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kronin
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Posted - 08/22/2004 :  5:21:13 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by natesneat2000

Thank you; I think I will rip with q 7 and CDEx.


Be advised that users have posted skipping of Q7 ogg files on the Neuros. I use Q6 with very rare skips over MyFi, but no skips at all over headphones.

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Posted - 08/23/2004 :  1:34:43 PM  Show Profile
I would advise you to do some listening tests with Ogg Vorbis. Try Q3, Q5, Q6, and Q7, and use as low as you decide is acceptable.

I use Q6, and there are occasional problems with playback on the Neuros. I would not go any higher, myself.

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bhcompy
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Posted - 08/23/2004 :  2:07:16 PM  Show Profile
any problems with q8 on neuros?

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Posted - 08/23/2004 :  2:10:39 PM  Show Profile  Visit noiz's Homepage  Send noiz an AOL message  Send noiz a Yahoo! Message
quote:
Originally posted by bhcompy

any problems with q8 on neuros?


that will most likely skip on the neuros even when listening with headphones...

-noiz

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bhcompy
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Posted - 08/23/2004 :  2:16:17 PM  Show Profile
why? higher the compression the more the skipping? why does it skip on headphones differently than on broadcast?

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Posted - 08/23/2004 :  2:44:44 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bhcompy

why? higher the compression the more the skipping? why does it skip on headphones differently than on broadcast?


The higher the quality, the higher the bitrate. The higher the bitrate, the more processing power it takes to decode. The more processing power it takes to decode, the more likely you are to hear a skip.

Therefore, if Q6 skips rarely, then Q7 will skip more frequently, and Q8 will skip more frequently than that.

The reason it skips differently on headphones vs. MyFi is that MyFi uses processing power too, which takes away from the available processing power to decode the music.

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Posted - 08/23/2004 :  2:50:47 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by bhcompy

Well, at vorbis quality 7 I get between 205-225kbit compression. so you can multiply that out and divide by 8 to get your total kbytes



What do you mean by this statement? Are you saying that the Q7 ogg vorbis files average 205-225 kbps? This is the bitrate, not the compression. A lower bitrate equates to a higher compression, so a Q1 ogg vorbis file is compressed more than a Q7 vorbis file, keeping in mind that it's a lossy compression, just like MP3, WMA or AAC.

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Posted - 08/23/2004 :  3:04:40 PM  Show Profile
thats what i meant and it seems nate knew whati meant too

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natesneat2000
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Posted - 08/24/2004 :  8:24:43 PM  Show Profile
Yes. I figured out how many songs I could get, but forget . I won't be doing higher than 6, becuase even with 128 to 160 MP3, the menus seem slower while [playing... I'm buying some good headphones and goiong on a 4 hour road trip Thurs, so I'll have to do some ripping and listening and menu- uh...operating?

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Lou Erickson
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Posted - 08/25/2004 :  2:11:00 PM  Show Profile
The menus do slow down on playback. I have some tracks they're practically non-responsive.

If it gets really bad, press "pause". =)

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Posted - 09/16/2004 :  10:47:20 AM  Show Profile
Ugh. Most of my OGGs (well over 40GB worth) are 256kbps nominal. Is there any chance the Neuros could ever play higher bitrate files? Are we simply out of MIPS and I would need to transcode my entire library? Ugh.

Russ W. Knize

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