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Gene - MP3 Engineer
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 Posted - 05/01/2003 : 12:00:01 PM
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I may have missed it somewhere, but when will the ability to write your own XI menus?
The one menu feature I would like (and would write given the tools) would be Albums under Artist.
Since I really don't make playlists too often and want to play through an entire Album.
Right now if you go in to Artist you get all of the Artist's songs. I have 10 different bootlegs of a song. I don't want to hear them all. I want to play through the whole Album.
I know I can go to an album, under albums, but I don't remember all of the ablum names and who sings them. I have ~ 17G on my Neuros. So, one more level in the tree would help.
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Cool4u2view
Neuros Audio Team
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 12:05:37 PM
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You might be able to do this with the developer tools which are not yet available.
-Jeff |
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kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 12:13:15 PM
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We could build it on NSM, but the firmware wouldn't support it. The new firmware, the one in the fall, will support this type of functionality.
Kathryn |
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Gene - MP3 Engineer
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 12:15:20 PM
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I'm ready for the tools, can't wait.
Since I don't have any idea what the database schema looks like, its hard to tell, but I doubt this is a major change.
I think it would be a good enhancement for everyone. I would think others would like the ability to find an album under the artist and then play it. I'm too lazy to make play lists. That is why I put all of my music on the Neuros.
Looks like new beta PC software available too. |
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Cool4u2view
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Gene - MP3 Engineer
Posting is for Closers
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 12:20:18 PM
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Kathryn,
Is there an easy way to create playlists that were the albums?
That is to say can NSM create 100's of playlists, each one containing the list of songs in an album? Or is that what will not be supported by the firmware.
Maybe some other software can do it? Like Musicmatch.
Can you explain what you mean by firmware in the Fall? Will the next version not be out until Fall, or is that a major redesign? I am new to these forums, but don't recall any reference to the Fall.
Thanks for the response.
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Originally posted by kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
We could build it on NSM, but the firmware wouldn't support it. The new firmware, the one in the fall, will support this type of functionality.
Kathryn
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kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 1:42:55 PM
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Hi Gene,
The playlist work around is not bad at all. Under views, you can see all the albums. Then just right-click on the album you wish, and pick, "Add to playlist".
How does that sound?
Ok, the firmware release thing is the Big Version 2 of the FW, a total restructuring. It will allow you to Add to My Mix while playing, listen to music while making changes on the device. Etc. In short, it will rock.
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webkid
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 1:48:40 PM
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Originally posted by kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
The playlist work around is not bad at all. Under views, you can see all the albums. Then just right-click on the album you wish, and pick, "Add to playlist".
How does that sound?
I think his problem was that he wanted Artist -> Album -> Play Album. |
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Gene - MP3 Engineer
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 3:28:19 PM
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Artist -> Album -> Play Album Yes, this was the request, well put.
Again my problem is that I have 50 albums under 1 artist. Let's say bootlegs of The Dead or Springsteen. They have all kinds of funky names, which I do not recognize under Album.
So, if I could make a playlist called BS-"album name" or GD-"album name" Then I could scroll through the playlists and play the albums. But I don't want to do it manually or change all of the tags.
Make sense?
This would help in the car while drinking my coffee, talking on the phone and choosing music on the Neuros. |
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kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 11:26:02 PM
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I see what you are saying. This feature has been a popular request.
As I mentioned, this would not be that hard to do on NSM, but we couldn't do it on the device with the firmware as is. We have decided to wait to create the NSM side until the firmware could support it.
But it sound like, if I understand your post, that even just the NSM side could help you to some extent. Everyone please speak up if having the NSM side of the Artist> Album issue would be a very important thing for you.
Know one great truth, o ye forum posters, priorities really are dictated by user demand. If a good number of people speak up, it can make a change in the order of things done internally.
So let me know what you think,
Kathryn |
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 11:51:54 PM
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Would that apply to USB 2.0 ('cause summer is a rather long time to wait)?
I, too, would like to see albums under the artists. It would make searching a whole lot easier. For me I'd want it on the firmware, it would do me no good to have it on NSM.
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kborn(at)neurosaudio.com
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Posted - 05/01/2003 : 11:59:44 PM
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I know it seems like a long wait, but USB 2.0 is a textbook case of an issue that we had no idea would spark the consumer feedback it did. Remember that a hardware change involves a lot of processes, it needs to be actually designed and built, not just programmed. So changes like that will take longer to implemement.
K |
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Cool4u2view
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Posted - 05/02/2003 : 12:09:21 AM
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Will you guys do me a huge favor and keep firewire in mind while designing the USB 2.0 support so that it will not take the same amount of time to support firewire (which most informed people, who look at actual benchmarks, know is a superior interface)?
I know it's "on the list," but if it is kept in mind while designing USB 2.0 it may make your job a whole lot easier later on.
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paulie1000
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Posted - 05/02/2003 : 08:24:10 AM
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| I would like to see Albums under Artist, but primarily on the Neuros. I wouldn't have as much of a need to see that on NSM. As long as you can sort in NSM (multiple sorts would be great to have again-like in 1.20), this isn't much of a problem for me there. |
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cole
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Posted - 10/15/2003 : 5:53:26 PM
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| I agree with the logic behind this whole-heartedly. When you have 5000 songs (or so) at your disposal, that means you could have hundreds of songs within any given "artist" category, and probably much more within a "genre" category. Once you're in this category, without a subcategory, you can select either individual songs, or you've got "sequential" and "random". It basically comes down to wanting the same navigation style as our folders most of us want back so much. |
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Drew
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Posted - 10/16/2003 : 1:32:59 PM
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But it sound like, if I understand your post, that even just the NSM side could help you to some extent. Everyone please speak up if having the NSM side of the Artist> Album issue would be a very important thing for you.
It would mean a lot more to me if it was on the Neuros side, but even on the NSM side, that would be nice. It's just that when I'm looking on the Neuros, I can never remember who did what album...I know that I want to listen to an artist and I can remember what was on the album, but I don't want to listen through four or five albums to pick out the ten songs from the one album that I wanted to hear. Does that make sense?
A quick workaround is to make playlists, which I've done for quite a few albums. It's just a little time consuming...but it will do for now. |
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Third Rail Design Lab
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Posted - 10/16/2003 : 1:50:39 PM
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I just thought of a way to seal the deal on this workaround. KB, you've said that artist/album breakdown can be done in NSM, right?
What if we could have a "make Playlist" option in NSM so that we select an album, and press that selection, and NSM writes the playlist for that album, and titles it [artist name]_[album name]...
so that way, we could easily automate the creation of album playlists, by selecting a group of albums, and hitting this button, and letting NSM do the work?
In addition, if NSM would support the artist, album format as described above, then we could select the ARTIST, and have an option to create playlists of each album within the artist's tree.
You'd still ultimately end up with alot of scrolling in the playlist menu of the Neuros...if you have 10 Boards of Canada recordings, you'd now have 10 entries in playlists called Boards of Canada_xxxxxx, etc.
True artist/album trees on teh Neuros are beneficial because you have a folder to open to release another menu of items, so there's less scrolling.
But an automated playlisting function in NSM would be very helpful.
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magog
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Posted - 10/16/2003 : 1:53:38 PM
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With the current firmware, can the menus be hacked? That is, can I edit the XML files that define the menu structure and the changes will appear in the Neuros after the next synch?
Could I thus use "brute force" to create a static Artists/Albums hierarchy? Is there a maximum size for the menu definitions?
(I don't have a Neuros yet, so I can't experiment with this myself...)
Michael
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neuros(at)mkfifo.net
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Posted - 01/20/2004 : 7:24:53 PM
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Originally posted by webkid
I think his problem was that he wanted Artist -> Album -> Play Album.
This is something I really need to be able to do on the Neuros. In fact, I might have waited to purchase if I had known in advance that this wasn't an option. Any idea when this will be possible? |
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Chameleon
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Posted - 01/21/2004 : 10:48:19 AM
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Originally posted by neuros(at)mkfifo.net
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Originally posted by webkid
I think his problem was that he wanted Artist -> Album -> Play Album.
This is something I really need to be able to do on the Neuros. In fact, I might have waited to purchase if I had known in advance that this wasn't an option. Any idea when this will be possible?
I believe from reading this thread that the desired functionality should be available in OS/2 which is currently in testing and will be available very soon.
Order Number: 2249 |
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kronin
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Posted - 01/21/2004 : 11:30:14 AM
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Originally posted by Chameleon
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Originally posted by neuros(at)mkfifo.net
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Originally posted by webkid
I think his problem was that he wanted Artist -> Album -> Play Album.
This is something I really need to be able to do on the Neuros. In fact, I might have waited to purchase if I had known in advance that this wasn't an option. Any idea when this will be possible?
I believe from reading this thread that the desired functionality should be available in OS/2 which is currently in testing and will be available very soon.
Order Number: 2249
Except, reread Joe Born's post:
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Just to give everyone an update, we're planning on releasing a total rewrite of the firmware to Alpha pretty soon, that includes many of the features that folks have been asking for (not all, and most of the dbase stuff will not be in the first version). It's largely done already but it's not yet useable. We'll keep you posted.
Joe
It sounds like _eventually_ the db stuff will be in the new firmware, but it's not in the first version. |
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