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Tho_mas
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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2006, 03:23:15 AM »

Has anyone tried out these two recorders: Edirol r-09 and M-Audio Microtrack? They have the very important recording features but record to SD and CF cards. The only problem: its not a decent mp3 player olso.
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2006, 09:52:37 AM »

Well, it's been a month since Joe asked about the 442v2, and nobody from Neuros has been heard from since. [Sad]

I could handle the size, but the recording wasn't working too well for my situation.  I record classroom lectures, which are hard to record anyway.  During playback, I have the sound turned up and hear the harddrive cycling every so often.  Lately, I've switched my recording the a Creative Zen.  The recording isn't any better sound-wise, but doesn't have the harddrive cycling (since there's no drive).  Also, it IS much smaller, lasts 8 hours, and has plenty of room for weeks of recording.

I think I'll use my Neuros at home for now on, and just carry a couple of zen players with me for traveling.  It's easier to carry 2 or 3 zens and an extra battery in my pocket than the Neuros with an adapter.

Anyone remember the Amiga computer?  Best 128-meg computer around, could format 4 floppy drives and still multitask!  All this in '87!  They were the best, except for their marketing.  I think Neuros is operating the same way.  So many questions from the die-hard users, and no response.  No exitement.  No more newsletters.  no more ... anything?
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2006, 10:07:58 AM »

Tho_mas - I work at a music store, and have seen the Edirol/Roland recorders go through the stock. They are GREAT portable recorders. Built in stereo condersors and jack for stereo mics, with or without preamps. But I want a player too..... AND a HD for recording.

I'm beginning to think they're trying to quietly phase out the Audio only device.
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« Reply #18 on: May 31, 2006, 12:11:32 PM »

I've just got an iRiver H140 from ebay at US170. Installed Rockbox as main OS/application and added a few extra packages (like Recording Enhancement Pack).... superb playing capabilities (almost any popular format run smoothly, several lossless ones) and very good recording capabilites.

Try that one till the N3 comes up. Wolf.
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« Reply #19 on: May 31, 2006, 01:16:33 PM »

It's interesting to note that, as mentioned before, no one from Neuros has responded to our discussion or call for a "bone" on the N3.  It would be nice to have Joe or someone of the "higher ups" tell us what their strategy is, even if it is to NOT release the N3!  I would be OK with that; it's just the not knowing and the waiting for updates that gets me down.
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« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2006, 02:12:49 PM »

quote:
Originally posted by RevRon
 it's just the not knowing and the waiting for updates that gets me down.



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« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2006, 09:55:52 PM »

I appoligize for being out of touch on this.  I don't mean to blow you guys off (although I realize that's inadvertantly what I've been doing).  Internally we are trying to decide this very issue.  We are growing our team, both in the US and China to be able to do more products, but at this point, we're still stretched pretty thin.  We keep pushing off the N3 project and even the 442v2 to focus on the R3.  I realize that's not much consolation to the folks on this thread, but it's only fair to give you an honest assesment of the situation.  

Like all of you, as a user, I long for an N3 myself, and I wish I had a better assesment of the schedule at this point, my best guess is that we're looking at mid '07 now.  In the meantime, I will get more information to you regarding the 442v2, which except for the size, could be an excellent solution for most of you (which BTW, will have .wav recording)

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2006, 11:41:53 AM »

My ONLY issue with getting a 442v2 is the lack of NeuroCast.  I use it far too often to be without it.

(Money is a bit of a concern now, too, now that I have a shiny new MacBook Pro, but such is life.)
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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2006, 10:46:22 PM »

I don't want a 442V2 because I don't want something that big, my N2 is big enough.  I'm interested in the Audio not the Video, so the 442 doesn't hold any spark for me.

I'm bummed that we aren't going to see anything significant until mid-2007, but as they say, "Better late than never!"

Thank you Joe, I wish we could make it get created sooner, but that's not the reality (yet).



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« Reply #24 on: June 02, 2006, 12:12:15 AM »

I agree with the good reverend.  Like I said before, all I want is a good, SMALL, audio player - and I LOVE the neurocast.  I have no interest in buying a pmp, so the 442 holds no value to me.

Thanks for responding Joe, but I'm still disappointed it's going to take that long for a new player.

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« Reply #25 on: June 02, 2006, 04:40:30 AM »

Anyone else feel, sort of, betrayed... Let down.

They hyped up the Neuros 3 in fall of 2005, with all of the head-fi forums and what not, made it seem like it was so close to being developed and then...  PUT ON THE BACK BURNER!

Lets think...  They have released (correct me if I am wrong) the recorder 1 and 2, the 442 and will release the 442v2, the R3, and maybe even the Vdrive all between the time they released the N2 and released the N3?  That is pretty ridculous. I believe the audio player was the product that started it all, right?  

It seems they have delayed the vitally necessary N3, to release the not even remotely as necessary 442v2 and the R3.  Think about it:  The 442 is fine as a media player for now, and the R2 is fine also.  The N2 is leaps and bounds behind recent developments.  I am getting sick and tired for getting ridiculed for carting a brick everywhere I go. And when a ray of light was shinning from the N3 they snuffed it!  It seems a lot of people are talking about potentially letting go and puting their money in another companies player because they simply cannot wait any longer...

Has the N3 missed its biggest window?

(I know... I am pretty cynical and upset. I have put a lot faith in this company for a while, but it seems they set the wrong priorities)

I just hope I can control myself long enough to wait for the N3 because it SOUNDS simply amazing...

hmm...glad that is off my chest. it is time to cool down...
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« Reply #26 on: June 02, 2006, 05:44:19 AM »

Delaying the N3 until 2007 essentially takes DI out of the portable audio player market.  Due to the projected release date, the N3 will have to be completely re-designed anyways, dut to changes in available technology.

I'm happy with my N2 for now, and honestly don't care what anyone else thinks about the size of my player.  The problem for DI is that when it comes time to buy a replacement, with a release date for the N3 so far away, there is little chance that I'll wait for the N3, I'll just buy something that's available NOW.

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« Reply #27 on: June 02, 2006, 06:38:47 AM »

Sorry to be "dense" Todd, but what is DI?

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« Reply #28 on: June 02, 2006, 08:48:53 AM »

Sorry, old habit.  The company name used to be Digital Innovations.

http://reviews.cnet.com/Digital_Innovations_Neuros_HD_20_GB/4505-6490_7-20761164.html

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« Reply #29 on: June 02, 2006, 09:57:58 AM »

I think there was a great advantage being an early innovator, and I love the neurocast feature, but there's no perceived advantage to entering the market last.  NeurosAudio must believe the R3 will have a better profit margin if they can get it finished.

At least we know, and now we can make better consumer decisions.  Like Todd and mrchyles, I'll just have to wait and see if the N3 is better than the other players I have at the time (so far, an N1, N2, and two creative zens, and will begin looking for a slimmer 40G player).  We'll still use the N1 and N2, but may not need anything the N3 has to offer a year from now.

Who knows?  Maybe the timeline will improve over the next few months ...

Rick
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