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chiefdaddy
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Posted - 12/28/2004 :  9:00:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit chiefdaddy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
Hi I just updated the firmware of my Neuros II 30GB HD to Version 2.26.1.7.garbage

Thank you for your modifications... great stuff! I primarily use my Neuros for recording (mostly wav sometimes mp3)

One thing I noticed which could be a small bug...

After recording with mic or line-in, the recording is not shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and cannot be played until Neuros is synchronized with NSM. The message "No records available!" is shown.

With the main firmware branch, after recording with mic or line-in, the new recording file is shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and can be played without having to be synchronized with NSM

Before updating to this branch, I would listen to new recordings on the way home before synchronization with NSM... this is no longer possible with Version 2.26.1.7.garbage

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fretless6
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Posted - 01/17/2005 :  09:28:25 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'm experienceing the same thing as CheifDaddy- the recording is not added to the database in GarBage 2.26.1.7 when it's finished. (80 gb Neuros 2)

I also noticed somethign else- sometimes (with this and with the current Neuros Firmware v2.25 the line in isin't recognized - no levels appear, nor do the indicators. I suspect it occurs if the recording is started from anything but the root menu, but i'm not sure. When I get a few min i'll see if I can duplicate it. Other times it doesn't reconignize the left side- although I suspect this to be a hardware issue with mine- anyone else experienceing this?


Other than that- i'm floored at how fast everything is with this frimware!

Killer job Gar Bage!



Edited by - fretless6 on 01/17/2005 09:37:31 AM

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chiefdaddy
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  08:22:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit chiefdaddy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fretless6
I also noticed somethign else- sometimes (with this and with the current Neuros Firmware v2.25 the line in isin't recognized - no levels appear, nor do the indicators. Anyone else experienceing this?



I have never experienced this. Sounds like it could be a hardware problem. I am now using 2.26.1.3.garbage

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ClusterOne
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Posted - 01/18/2005 :  08:30:55 AM  Show Profile  Visit ClusterOne's Homepage  Send ClusterOne an AOL message  Send ClusterOne an ICQ Message  Click to see ClusterOne's MSN Messenger address  Send ClusterOne a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
One thing I've noticed about this firmware, (congrats btw, Gar Bage, it's great stuff!!) is that if you are browsing by albums->artist and you just press play on an artist name (which with the NA fw would go to first album/first song if on sequential or random/random if not), it instead seems to play a random song from the database with the Tag info of the first song of the FIRST album in the database. This might be expected or intended behavior, I just thought I'd make you aware!

Thanks for everything brother!

here I is.

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Posted - 01/19/2005 :  6:21:47 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chiefdaddy

Hi I just updated the firmware of my Neuros II 30GB HD to Version 2.26.1.7.garbage

Thank you for your modifications... great stuff! I primarily use my Neuros for recording (mostly wav sometimes mp3)

One thing I noticed which could be a small bug...

After recording with mic or line-in, the recording is not shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and cannot be played until Neuros is synchronized with NSM. The message "No records available!" is shown.

With the main firmware branch, after recording with mic or line-in, the new recording file is shown under
Neuros audio=>Recordings
and can be played without having to be synchronized with NSM

Before updating to this branch, I would listen to new recordings on the way home before synchronization with NSM... this is no longer possible with Version 2.26.1.7.garbage

This is a known bug. I reported it more than a month ago.

http://neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/GarBageDiscussion
Search for "(2.26.1.7) Recordings not added to DB"

-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

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Batsoni
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Posted - 01/22/2005 :  10:55:15 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am a Neuros newbie. Could someone please help me. I'm trying to switch to GarBage's firmware. I was able to download woid.hex. Which directory do I save it into on my Neuros? Then, if I'm not mistaken, I have to hold DOWN and shut down, then hold DOWN and boot up, then shut down, then hold presets 1 and 5 and boot up (which I gather is called formatting the NAND, or does it just put me into diagnostics mode where I have the option to format the NAND?). At this point I think I'm a little fuzzy and could use some clarification.

This seems to be a fairly popular thing to do. Speaking on behalf of newbies both present and future, if someone could post detailed, clear, step-by-step instructions on how to perform this involved task, we would be forever in your debt. All I read about on the forum is how touchy the Neuros is. I'm afraid to play around to try and figure this out for myself for fear of screwing things up irretrievably.

GarBage, I have yet to take advantage of your efforts, but I would like to thank you in advance for all of the effort you have put into making this excellent device even better. I can't wait to find out for myself how much better.

Also, which version should I install for least amount of quirkiness? 2.26.1.6 or 2.26.1.7, or should I go back even further?

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Posted - 01/22/2005 :  12:03:41 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alright- first of all, the newest GarBage release is free of quirks - minus the database not updating itself after you record. If you just sync again with NSM/NDBM/Sorune, the recording will then show up.

To update:

1. Download woid.hex
2. Put it in [Neuros Drive]:\Firmware
3. Shut down the Neuros with Down+Play
4. Start it up with Down+Play
5. Follow the onscreen instructions.


It should be as simple as that. Formatting the NAND afterwords with 1+5+Play is not necessary, but you can do it if you want. It won't affect the data on your HD, nor will it affect the database.

------Order #9082 :D

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Batsoni
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Posted - 01/22/2005 :  1:34:36 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bless you sir, Bless you.

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fretless6
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Posted - 02/02/2005 :  12:26:45 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by chiefdaddy

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I have never experienced this. Sounds like it could be a hardware problem. I am now using 2.26.1.3.garbage



Does this version update the database properly and allow you to listen to recordings immediately after making them?

Thanks

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chiefdaddy
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Posted - 02/02/2005 :  1:22:03 PM  Show Profile  Visit chiefdaddy's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by fretless6

quote:
Originally posted by chiefdaddy
I am now using 2.26.1.3.garbage



Does this version update the database properly and allow you to listen to recordings immediately after making them?

Thanks




Yes recordings are added to database. This update has better recording meters. However... I've been having a problem where Sometimes xp doesn't detect neuros and doesn't show up as harddrive in explorer. If I snap off the front piece and hook the usb2 cable to just the harddrive while the power is not plugged in then it does detect.

I don't know if this is related but this is something I have been living with. I spoke with neuros support and they recommended I try the firmware 2.25.

I primarily use the unit for recording so if I have better meters and can get the files off then that's good enough for me for now.

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nibbles
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  02:42:51 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My XP will freak out if I disconnect the Neuros from a USB port and
later plug it into a different USB port.

I must always connect to the same USB port!

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encosion's neuros died again... encosion has left the building in a huff, never to return...
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Posted - 02/18/2005 :  08:03:48 AM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by nibbles : My XP will freak out if I disconnect the Neuros from a USB port and later plug it into a different USB port.

I must always connect to the same USB port!
Nope, sounds like somethings wrong. Check that you're "Safely Removing your Hardware" and not just yanking out the USB chord when you're done... But you should posting a new topic for questions such as this, which are unrelated to this thread btw.

:: peace out ::: :: :

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Sottilde
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Posted - 02/26/2005 :  8:48:30 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So when's the next update? It's been about 2 months...

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guttrhead(at)gmail.com
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Posted - 02/26/2005 :  9:28:32 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sottilde

So when's the next update? It's been about 2 months...

------Order #9082 :D



They're probably waiting until 2.28 gets out of beta and goes open source

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Chameleon
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  7:25:28 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Also, I think the new firmware team is still ramping up.
Once they get going, the trees need to be merged so that there is only one tree everybody contributes to & builds from.
That should happen soon.

-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

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Sottilde
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Posted - 02/28/2005 :  9:14:23 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can't wait for that. I would really like to see some good concentrated work being done on the firmware. Anyone know an ETA on when the new team's coming around? I've heard for more than a month that it's coming... just hoping it's soon.

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esquire
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Posted - 03/05/2005 :  1:05:59 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
thank 4 your work

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esquire
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Posted - 03/05/2005 :  1:11:47 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
how do i compile the source code? i a at the html code page,

ultra newbie

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Chameleon
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Posted - 03/07/2005 :  12:04:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit Chameleon's Homepage  Send Chameleon an AOL message  Send Chameleon an ICQ Message  Send Chameleon a Yahoo! Message  Reply with Quote
Just download the binary package.
http://neuros-firmware.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/view/Main/DownloadsHub

-- 'I switched to Vorbis and saved a bunch on my hard-disk space!'

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esquire
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Posted - 03/08/2005 :  12:14:31 PM  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
got it up and running, it rocks!
tecchie helped me a ton

step by step....
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1. download the firmware file

Easier way is dump a folder on your neuros called "firmware" then dump the firmware file into it..

Power up the neuros and then hold DOWN and the POWER button until it turns off.. DO NOT LET GO OF THE BUTTONS..

Once it's off, let go of the buttons..

Then wait a second, then press DOWN and POWER down first then
power.. You should be at a screen asking to flash from firmware found and/or it might ask you to insert the power cable..
-----------------------------------------

thanks tecchie

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